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Old 12-08-2018, 10:11 PM
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Can HOAs restrict rentals? Do HOAs for newly constructed neighborhoods do this?
They potentially can. My parents neighborhood HOA forbids rentals.
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Old 12-09-2018, 05:22 AM
 
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I actually think it is four guys which I understand is in fact against Durham's zoning code. I'm not sure what to do exactly though...
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Old 12-09-2018, 07:41 AM
 
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Absent an actual problem and absent HOA covenants forbidding it, I'm not sure what you can do.

Four guys living together is not against the law. Now if they are damaging the property of your ability to enjoy your own property then there may be an issue.

I don't think that unfounded concerns on whether renters will maintain a property or not is a valid reason to initiate some sort of action.
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Old 12-09-2018, 07:44 AM
 
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Absent an actual problem and absent HOA covenants forbidding it, I'm not sure what you can do.

Four guys living together is not against the law. Now if they are damaging the property of your ability to enjoy your own property then there may be an issue.

I don't think that unfounded concerns on whether renters will maintain a property or not is a valid reason to initiate some sort of action.
It is against the law zoning ordinances in Durham forbid more than three unrelated people living in a SFH
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Old 12-09-2018, 08:00 AM
 
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Can you provide the citation? I do see that for the purposes of defining a "Family" that is basis that Durham uses, but I do not see any code that expressly forbids more than 3 unrelated people living in a SFH.

Here is the entire city code. I haven't read through it but maybe there is something in there that can help you.

https://durham.municipal.codes/
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Old 12-09-2018, 08:14 AM
 
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Can you provide the citation? I do see that for the purposes of defining a "Family" that is basis that Durham uses, but I do not see any code that expressly forbids more than 3 unrelated people living in a SFH.

Here is the entire city code. I haven't read through it but maybe there is something in there that can help you.

https://durham.municipal.codes/
Thats not the City Code of Ordinances, thats just the Unified Development Ordinance (UDO), which only covers planning and zoning regulations. Here is a link to the Code of Ordinances:

https://library.municode.com/nc/durh..._of_ordinances

However, Section 17.3 of the UDO says:

"B. Where some or all of the occupants are unrelated by blood, marriage, or adoption, the total number of occupants that are unrelated, shall not exceed three. In applying this provision, children who are under the age of 23 and who are children of the owner or a person renting an entire dwelling unit from the owner shall be counted as a single occupant. In addition, in all cases, the limitation set out in subsection C. below shall apply."

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Old 12-09-2018, 08:17 AM
 
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Can you provide the citation? I do see that for the purposes of defining a "Family" that is basis that Durham uses, but I do not see any code that expressly forbids more than 3 unrelated people living in a SFH.

Here is the entire city code. I haven't read through it but maybe there is something in there that can help you.

https://durham.municipal.codes/
It's in the UDO it took me a while to find it there is also a news article from a few years back mentioning the same
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Old 12-09-2018, 08:49 AM
 
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I actually think it is four guys which I understand is in fact against Durham's zoning code. I'm not sure what to do exactly though...
You can submit your complaint online here:

https://durhamnc.gov/FormCenter/Plan...ion-Request-46

Or call the Planning Department at 919-560-4137.
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Old 12-10-2018, 08:00 AM
 
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I am seeing this trend in my neighborhood in northeast raleigh. We bought our house about 4 years ago and now have a varied and seeming changing crew of military folk living next door (work at Fort Bragg) and two houses across the street seem to have a collection of (1) young males and (2) young Latinos with small children - may or may not be blood related - with comings and goings at odd hours of the night - hubby swears they are dealing drugs! I think they just like to use Uber?

For the most part, yard upkeep is maintained and they are pretty much good/decent neighbors. So it's not terrible - just different than what I'm used too. We may have may not have purchased here if we had known, so it is a bit concerning - but not overly so. I have seen others mention it on the NextDoor app, with questions about HOA restrictions.

I have seen more and more rental signs popping up in the neighborhood.
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Old 12-10-2018, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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Thats not the City Code of Ordinances, thats just the Unified Development Ordinance (UDO), which only covers planning and zoning regulations. Here is a link to the Code of Ordinances:

https://library.municode.com/nc/durh..._of_ordinances
Ahh yeah you're right, I just did a muni code search for Durham and just posted the link.

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However, Section 17.3 of the UDO says:

"B. Where some or all of the occupants are unrelated by blood, marriage, or adoption, the total number of occupants that are unrelated, shall not exceed three. In applying this provision, children who are under the age of 23 and who are children of the owner or a person renting an entire dwelling unit from the owner shall be counted as a single occupant. In addition, in all cases, the limitation set out in subsection C. below shall apply."
Again, this is merely pulled from the definition page and is how, for the purposes of the UDO, family is defined.

The city code is more vague:

Sec. 10-233 "...Family means one or more persons living together and having common housekeeping facilities."

In any event, contacting your councilman/woman would be the first course of action. But barring any code violation, I'm not sure there's much that can be done.

I don't think we've established whether the OP lives in an HOA community (if so I apologize) so that may be one other route to follow.
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