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Old 09-11-2019, 02:29 PM
 
Location: under the beautiful Carolina blue
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It matters at the time. It doesn't matter now. What would it change, now? OP doesn't need to do anything for her son, medically. The director can't do anything more than she did. It's like if the school had been negligent letting them cross the street and they almost got hit by a car; after the fact it makes no difference if the car was going 25 mph or 50 mph, as the situation has passed.

Heat stroke is extremely apparent; the staff would have noticed, and her son didn't describe himself as being sick.

Honestly, I think they're telling the truth because I think that the consequences would have been much worse after an hour and a half; though it's hard to say since a bus is less of a greenhouse than a sedan and there are 100 other variables to how hot it got.

I sound callous, but I'm not. The thought of a kid being left in a bus on a hot day shakes me to my core; OP's reaction is completely understandable. Attempting to figure out a timeline after the fact doesn't change anything.
You're right about all of this, but it does speak to the lack of common sense we're dealing with on the staff. 40 minutes is a long time for a 5 year old to be missing and they thought he was off the bus. It's WAY to long to go without calling for assistance, asking for a lockdown at the venue or checking the bus despite what the driver said.. Quite frankly the staff should be familiar enough with the driver to know that's the first thing they should have done.
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Old 09-11-2019, 02:51 PM
 
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You're right about all of this, but it does speak to the lack of common sense we're dealing with on the staff. 40 minutes is a long time for a 5 year old to be missing and they thought he was off the bus. It's WAY to long to go without calling for assistance, asking for a lockdown at the venue or checking the bus despite what the driver said.. Quite frankly the staff should be familiar enough with the driver to know that's the first thing they should have done.
(I Think) 40 minutes doesn't refer to how long they looked. They could have looked for all of four minutes after realizing he was unaccounted for.
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Old 09-11-2019, 02:56 PM
 
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This is frightening to read. I'm glad your kid will be ok after this experience, but you shouldn't have to go through it.
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Old 09-11-2019, 04:31 PM
 
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Holy cow, with today's heat this could have been another of the way to many tragedies when kids are left in ovens (vehicles). If this had been an afternoon outing I hate to even think of the outcome. I worked on the inside of my car this afternoon and it was unbearably hot and with both doors open i couldn't stay in there very long without cranking up the engine and AC.

I hope you are able to raise enough flags so your day care provider and hopefully others address making 100% sure no one is left in a vehicle ANYTIME. Whatever the season it should be mandatory for a walk-through to ASSURE no child is left alone. It's not a manner of a child missing out on a movie or whatever, it could easily be a manner of life and death.
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Old 09-11-2019, 06:00 PM
 
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That's really awful. Regarding the bolded though, does it matter? If that were the case, that he was alone for 1.5 hours, what would you expect that's different? The director can't double-fire the teacher/driver. It sounds like the director is handling this as a serious incident and doing so properly. Your son is fine, and that's what matters. The only people that know for certain are the driver and teacher.

The daycare's version seems credible enough.
Aweful what happened to your kid but I agree here. If you have proof the director did everything stated above then what more are you after? If you are wanting to file a lawsuit, I don't think it matters whether it's 40 minutes or 1.5 hours?
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Old 09-11-2019, 07:54 PM
 
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How are procedures updated to ensure this never happens again?
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Old 09-11-2019, 08:17 PM
 
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teach your kid how to buckle/un-buckle their seat belt. Sorry they got stuck, the camp should count the kids on the vehicle and count them off the vehicle when they arrive it's not rocket science just laziness.
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Old 09-11-2019, 08:27 PM
 
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OP, find out who regulates/licenses the day care and CALL THEM. File a complaint. I am sure they are accountable to someone. This is my result from a quick search.

https://ncchildcare.ncdhhs.gov/Servi...cense-Overview
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Old 09-11-2019, 08:38 PM
 
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OP, find out who regulates/licenses the day care and CALL THEM. File a complaint. I am sure they are accountable to someone. This is my result from a quick search.

https://ncchildcare.ncdhhs.gov/Servi...cense-Overview
OP said the daycare reported it to the state.
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Old 09-11-2019, 08:47 PM
 
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OP, find out who regulates/licenses the day care and CALL THEM. File a complaint. I am sure they are accountable to someone. This is my result from a quick search.

https://ncchildcare.ncdhhs.gov/Servi...cense-Overview
I agree with Sal M.......you need to follow up to ensure that this was reported and you should definitely file a complaint as well.

I'm so sorry your son had to endure that and so thankful that he is OK!!
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