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Old 02-20-2009, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Cary
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Has anyone noticed that SECU's (http://www.ncsecu.org/Loans/AdjustableMortgage.html - broken link) rate on their 2-Year ARM is now 3.75 percent? That must be a historic low.

Has anyone out there with a SECU mortgage refinanced or paid their mortgage modification fee to capture this rate?

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Old 02-20-2009, 12:08 PM
 
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GET OUT 3.75%!?!?
Anyone know if it is possible to refi with a house on (or just off) the market?
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Old 02-20-2009, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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People...it is a TWO YEAR adjustable rate. Do you know how quickly 2 year's passes? Then what?

Vicki
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Old 02-20-2009, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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People...it is a TWO YEAR adjustable rate. Do you know how quickly 2 year's passes? Then what?

Vicki
My understanding this week was that in two years it can go up a maximum 1%.
For 2 years...

So in this case, in 6 years, the rate could go to 6.75%, meaning for the first 6 years the average would be 4.75%.

Interesting when coupled with 100% financing.
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Old 02-20-2009, 01:10 PM
 
Location: ITB Raleigh NC
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People...it is a TWO YEAR adjustable rate. Do you know how quickly 2 year's passes? Then what?

Vicki
Well SECU is pretty good about their ARMs. MAx rate on this loan could be up to 12% and the 3.75 is an initial rate, with an APR of 4.67. This is a good deal if and only if rates stay low or you will be done with the mortgage in a few years, as you will not be over 6% until the 4-6 year range (1% max increase every 2 years).
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Old 02-20-2009, 01:10 PM
 
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On my last home I used the SECU 2yr arm and at that time it was around the same rate. It can only go up 1% every 2 yrs and there is a max out, but I can't recall what it was.
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Old 02-20-2009, 01:12 PM
 
Location: ITB Raleigh NC
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My understanding this week was that in two years it can go up a maximum 1%.
For 2 years...

So in this case, in 6 years, the rate could go to 6.75%, meaning for the first 6 years the average would be 4.75%.

Interesting when coupled with 100% financing.

Looks like you can only get 90% on that, 100% financing is 4.25%
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Old 02-20-2009, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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I understand your point...however, isn't this what has gotten so many people into trouble today?

So many took the adjustable rate mortgages with the first year being so low but each and every year, the rate went up. They QUALIFIED on the first year's monthly payments. By the 3rd year, because their income didn't go up, they were having a hard time making the payments.

So...I say this to those that are contemplating this...know the best AND the worst case senerios when deciding how much monthly payment you can afford.

Vicki
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Old 02-20-2009, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Cary
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People...it is a TWO YEAR adjustable rate. Do you know how quickly 2 year's passes? Then what?
After year two the rate will adjust to a maximum rate of 4.75 percent for years two through four. For years four through six, the worst case scenario is 5.75 percent. So that's six years at a maximum average rate of 4.75 percent. That's the worst case scenario.

Six years is a reasonably long planning horizon for a mortgage. If after six years, there's no good option available (sell and move on, refinance, pay down the loan), then we probably have worse problems to worry about than our mortgage interest rates.
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Old 02-20-2009, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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I understand your point...however, isn't this what has gotten so many people into trouble today?

So many took the adjustable rate mortgages with the first year being so low but each and every year, the rate went up. They QUALIFIED on the first year's monthly payments. By the 3rd year, because their income didn't go up, they were having a hard time making the payments.

So...I say this to those that are contemplating this...know the best AND the worst case senerios when deciding how much monthly payment you can afford.

Vicki
Sure thing, all around.
But for the person who can qualify at 5.5% or 6%, and has the discipline to manage finances, 90% funding @ 3.75% or 100% @ 4.25% with no PMI can be compelling.
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