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I like the idea of the second location, that's what I was imaging. Although, you don't have to have the apartments above, just shops, bars, restaurants, maybe movie theater or performing stage . Is there anything like that in the Raleigh area?
Click the "North Hills" link in the post right above this one.
They were also building "Davis Park" in Morrisville (which again is not Raleigh), but I don't think they even came close to building out the retail section of this "urban village".
The only thing is that it's seems to be more geared to shopping than entertainment, but I guess it would work. I do see that they hold events there too. It seems kind of big, maybe something on a smaller scale. Maybe some specialty or unique shops, bars, and restaurants? It's got the basic concept. I'd love to visit there. Thanks!
Well, it's not just my opinion; it's directly observable fact. You either live "in town" (i.e., where they potentially have "town squares") or you live outside of town (in the country or in the burbs).
Suburbs are towns.... Most people would agree with this. Apex is town. It is also a suburb of Raleigh. The definition of "burbs" you have presented here is atypical.
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Ok, but this is a straw man; who said anything about diversity?
YOU did!!!! This is your original quote!
"Seems to me that "burbs" and "town squares" have conflicting goals. The whole purpose of a suburb is to segregate people by socioeconomic status, whereas a town square attempts to bring people together."
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Right, but he didn't say "small town in the triangle", he said "burbs"; two very different things. Cary is a small town, but downtown Cary is certainly not "the burbs".
In that case you and I have different definitions of the word suburb.
The only thing is that it's seems to be more geared to shopping than entertainment, but I guess it would work. I do see that they hold events there too. It seems kind of big, maybe something on a smaller scale. It's got the basic concept. I'd love to visit there. Thanks!
Yeah, I think North Hills and places like them are (unfortunately, imo) more geared toward consumption rather than community. To me, a traditional town square is where people of all kinds would gather to socialize, have a beer and talk politics, grab a bite to eat and talk about the show you just attended, and such.
North Hills/Briar Creek is definitely more about consumer culture, imo.
I think Asheville is a good example of the "town square" concept. There are a variety of unique shops, restaurants, outdoor dining, live music venues, and of course the infamous drum circles in Pritchard Park. You're likely to run into all kinds of people from tourists to locals to young hipsters to retired folks.
And you won't find anything remotely resembling a big box chain retail store.
Yeah, I think North Hills and places like them are (unfortunately, imo) more geared toward consumption rather than community. To me, a traditional town square is where people of all kinds would gather to socialize, have a beer and talk politics, grab a bite to eat and talk about the show you just attended, and such.
North Hills/Briar Creek is definitely more about consumer culture, imo.
I think Asheville is a good example of the "town square" concept. There are a variety of unique shops, restaurants, outdoor dining, live music venues, and of course the infamous drum circles in Pritchard Park. You're likely to run into all kinds of people from tourists to locals to young hipsters to retired folks.
And you won't find anything remotely resembling a big box chain retail store.
IMHO, I think this would be a great concept in Raleigh. We have them here in FL and it is a busy place, especially on the weekends. I wouldn't have thought of the idea, but down here they are popping up all over the place. They have some lunch places, but more geared to what you mentioned. Some of the bars have a band or DJ on certain nights. During the day, you may see a 2 man band or an art show or vendors set up for a certian occasion. They have different themes such as Mardi Gras, Bike week, or Pet expo. You can dine out on the patio or just plain hang out with your friends or meet new ppl.
It seems like lately Wake Forest has been having alot going on as far as festivals and get togethers. (Thanks to NRG keeping us informed) I really like to see this stuff and be part of it. I hope they keep it up. From what I heard, they have a big turnout too.
Suburbs are towns.... Most people would agree with this. Apex is town. It is also a suburb of Raleigh. The definition of "burbs" you have presented here is atypical.
sub-burb
–noun 1. a district lying immediately outside a city or town, esp. a smaller residential community. 2. the suburbs, the area composed of such districts. 3. an outlying part. suburb definition | Dictionary.com
–noun 1. a district lying immediately outside a city or town, esp. a smaller residential community. 2. the suburbs, the area composed of such districts. 3. an outlying part. suburb definition | Dictionary.com
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