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My two cents for posterity: I think it should be a choice and left up to the individual establishments. Doesn't the government have better things to do?
Are you getting the idea that government dinks think EVERYTHING falls under their purview?
"Wake up and smell the end."
Since it's clear that individual restaurant owners would like it, it is a health risk issue as posed by the state agency interpreting the law. They are not (supposedly) interpreting any social aspect of dogs on patios, although to me it seems that's what they're doing more than the health question, since the health question is a moot point (dogs are allowed inside restaurants in Europe, and I very much doubt they have higher rates of restaurant illnesses than we do here).
Clarification: I was speaking about the discussion/debate here, not the legal rulings.
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Originally Posted by ty320f
My dog laying beside me outside a restaurant can be no worse than flying in the same airplane as a cat in a crate or a dog in a purse.
It is MUCH worse to breathe recirculated air containing pet dander (in an airplane cabin) than it is to breathe circulating air while sitting next to a dog.
The fact that the State of NC is trying to regulate this is just annoying.
Like many have said: You can't do this half-way; you would have to regulate birds, squirrels, bugs, children, and pets on planes, etc.
How many times have you eaten outside and a fly has pitched on your food/drink? It is much more disgusting for a bug to throw up on your food than it is for a dog to sit next to you.
Since it's clear that individual restaurant owners would like it...
But not all. As a country we have always looked out for the minority, this seems like a case of majority rule. Since many support the ban they intend to screw over those that do not with a government mandate.
It's not often that I just show up to a restaurant with my dog, but I do enjoy going to fundraisers and dog oriented functions. Just a few examples:
This law would mean these events would all have to be canceled. So to those asking, YES, it is a big deal. This would hurt local businesses, the local shelters, and the dog owning community. If you do not enjoy sitting near a dog why not just go inside, not attend during dog events, or seek out those restaurants that do not cater to dog owners. I do not enjoy sitting near children, so I do not go to a restaurant on kids night and avoid places with playgrounds. Is it extra work, perhaps a little bit, but I'm not about to petition the government to impose my personal wishes upon a restaurant.
?? And the reason we can't have fundraisers and "dog oriented functions" outside of restaurants is - ?
As for "local businesses," the only ones affected are restuarants, and I seriously doubt a restaurant would suffer greatly simply because dogs aren't allowed...if so, it probably wasn't that good in the first place.
As for local shelters, I have no idea why you think it would hurt them.
I won't even ask what "hurting the dog owning community" is supposed to mean.
If eating with your dog is so important, either go somewhere else (like a park) or eat at home.
I will say that Wake Co's legal justification for this is weak, ie the state law that says "live animals shall not be allowed in a food preparation or storage area." ? Tables where people are eating isn't a "food preparation or storage area."
i may have missed something about other penalties, but the article i read indicated it would cost the restaurant 2 points on the sanitation score if inspected with dogs around. if i owned a clean restaurant and did the 2 point education thing, i'd get a score of like 99 and just take the 2 points off for a 97. right below the mandated posting of that placard i'd post a sign saying "we sacrificed 2 points to allow our guests to bring their canine companions on our patios. thanks for your support." it's not like the health dept is going to shut the place down because they don't have the police remove people with dogs
<> And just so's we're on topic.... I don't think dogs belong in any restaurants-whether or not they feature patio seating nor do I think they belong in any enclosed store unless it's a pet supply store.
Actually the big box hardware stores welcome them.
They do! I've taken my dog to both Lowe's and HD before and people (both employees & customers) have come up to pet her and greet us/her. As far as I can tell, no one has had an issue with it and no one has ever said anything like "she's not allowed in here." Since she's the one paying and driving the car I guess they see who the real customer is! :wink:
We just returned from Europe with our large dogs. We took them everywhere with us, to include restaurants, B&B and wild animal parks. We very much enjoyed being able to include our furry companions in so much of our lives.
I find it sad that here they are excluded from so much. Lowes, HD and petsmart are not much for socialization. I hope wake county and those affected by this will rally against such an ordinance.
They're dogs!! Why, why, why must they go everywhere humans go? I love dogs; I own dogs. But I see no earthly reason why they must be everywhere humans go.
Spitting into the wind CH. Props for trying though.
At least people aren't lobbying for cats
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