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Old 04-03-2014, 01:05 AM
 
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What does one go by when there are no recent comps in a neighborhood? The last comps of houses of this model in this community were over a year ago. The other models are much smaller in size. There are no other large houses of comparable size in adjacent communities. Do we rely on those comps of over a year ago? Your thoughts?
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Old 04-03-2014, 05:13 AM
 
Location: OK
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It depends on your Lender's guidelines. The appraiser can either go back in time and make time adjustments if needed. FHMA will accept that with an explanation.

Or use the smaller sales and end up with a large GLA adjustment which will most likely exceed FNMA Guidelines. But, again, FNMA will accept that with an explanation.

Or use a combination of 3 recent sales that are smaller in GLA and add a 4th Comparable Sale that is older with a time adjustment, if necessary.

It will help if you/the appraiser can show that there ARE houses of your size in the neighborhood but just that haven't sold in the past 12 months.
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Old 04-03-2014, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Mokelumne Hill, CA & El Pescadero, BCS MX.
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I used to do Broker's Price Opinions (BPO's). I had one that I could not find a reasonable comp for. BPO company says go back farther and expand the geographic area. I do, nothing. Go back even farther and take in the entire county.

Found one! It was the subject property.
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Old 04-03-2014, 02:16 PM
 
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Found one! It was the subject property.
Gee--you can't find anything more similar than that!
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Old 04-03-2014, 05:52 PM
 
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I used to do Broker's Price Opinions (BPO's). I had one that I could not find a reasonable comp for. BPO company says go back farther and expand the geographic area. I do, nothing. Go back even farther and take in the entire county.

Found one! It was the subject property.

Actually, Fannie Mae allows the subject as a fourth comp. It can be your best comp!
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Old 04-04-2014, 05:44 AM
 
Location: OK
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I used to do Broker's Price Opinions (BPO's). I had one that I could not find a reasonable comp for. BPO company says go back farther and expand the geographic area. I do, nothing. Go back even farther and take in the entire county.

Found one! It was the subject property.
I am a rural appraiser and rarely find sales that are truly Comparable to the Subject. You just end up adjusting the daylights out of it.
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Old 04-04-2014, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Mokelumne Hill, CA & El Pescadero, BCS MX.
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I am a rural appraiser and rarely find sales that are truly Comparable to the Subject. You just end up adjusting the daylights out of it.
Yes indeed. It's why I quit doing them. The QC departments kept kicking stuff back at me. "Your adjustments are too big".
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Old 04-04-2014, 01:39 PM
 
Location: South Texas
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Yes indeed. It's why I quit doing them. The QC departments kept kicking stuff back at me. "Your adjustments are too big".
Gotta luv that nonsense. They're guidelines, not rules.
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Old 04-05-2014, 08:56 AM
 
Location: OK
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Yes indeed. It's why I quit doing them. The QC departments kept kicking stuff back at me. "Your adjustments are too big".
As the poster above me said, they are guidelines. They can't "instruct" us appraisers that way .... that is now against the law. As long as the adjustments are explained and supported they will work.
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Old 04-05-2014, 09:31 AM
 
Location: The beautiful Rogue Valley, Oregon
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What does one go by when there are no recent comps in a neighborhood? The last comps of houses of this model in this community were over a year ago. The other models are much smaller in size. There are no other large houses of comparable size in adjacent communities. Do we rely on those comps of over a year ago? Your thoughts?
We are in the same boat - a semi-resort, rural area, with houses on 5,000 sf lots to 150 acres, manufactured homes to 6,000sf sprawling "compounds." In the last year there have been 3 sales of homes, from $20,000 (manufactured home, pretty much a tear-down) to $1,525,000 (for a 300 acre ranch with senior water rights).

To get comps, the RA had to look 30, 40 miles away and she warned us that houses sell at a discount to asking price, so don't ask what you think you will actually get. She also said to expect a time on market of 6 months to 2 years.

One of my neighbors got an official appraisal in the first step to fighting their tax assessment and we relied heavily on that for setting the price for our house.
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