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Old 03-06-2011, 10:51 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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In most HOAs the violations would be the responsibility of the owner, not the renter, to fix even if the renter caused them. If the Board is not going after non-owner occupied violations then it's failing in one of its main duties.

Even bank owned properties that are unoccupied fall under this. A municipality may contact a renter first to fix an issue (high grass or whatever) but the ultimate hammer falls on the owner.
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Old 03-07-2011, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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There are decent HOA's and there are some real bad ones.
There are some real bad HOA's and there are some that haven't gone bad YET.

There I fixed it for you.
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Old 03-07-2011, 01:19 PM
 
Location: NJ
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There are some real bad HOA's and there are some that haven't gone bad YET.

There I fixed it for you.
That's like saying their are neighbors with junk cars on the lawn and there are some that haven't put them there yet.

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Old 03-07-2011, 08:18 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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they're just coming after the people they know ... care that they may get fined/sued.
What do you expect from the thugs in suits? Mandatory Associations Foreclosing in America = M.A.F.i.A.

They use the court system to terrorize homeowners and threaten to take the one place that's sanctified in our constitution to be protected from predatory foreclosure over trivial "debts": The Homestead.

HOA debts are trivial and, like any non-profit corporation in the USA, they must operate on gifts, not coercion.

The threat of foreclosure is coercive, and it's become a weapon of extortion racketeering and financial terrorism played on a grand scale. It's bad...it's nation wide.

These thugs have terrorized more Texans than Santa Anna. Remember San Jacinto?
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Old 03-08-2011, 06:50 AM
 
Location: Washington DC
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That's like saying their are neighbors with junk cars on the lawn and there are some that haven't put them there yet.

No. Its not like saying that.

An HOA has the power to control your use of your property.
An HOA can levy fees and special assessments.
An HOA can take you to court and with 99% probability of winning.
An HOA can foreclose on your home.
An HOA can misappropriate your dues which is equivalent to steeling your money.

Your Neighbor working on his car in the driveway is not even in the same league as the evil and misery that an HOA can rain down on you when they go bad.
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Old 03-08-2011, 07:04 AM
 
Location: NJ
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No. Its not like saying that.

An HOA has the power to control your use of your property.
An HOA can levy fees and special assessments.
An HOA can take you to court and with 99% probability of winning.
An HOA can foreclose on your home.
An HOA can misappropriate your dues which is equivalent to steeling your money.

Your Neighbor working on his car in the driveway is not even in the same league as the evil and misery that an HOA can rain down on you when they go bad.
You clearly missed the point of the comment. Your take is that every HOA is either bad right now or is going to go bad. You can say the exact same thing about neighbors and the reason some people want to live in an HOA to begin with.

I was not attempting to comare the severity of what an HOA can do vs. what a neighbor can do.
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Old 03-08-2011, 07:10 AM
 
Location: Texas
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There are some real bad HOA's and there are some that haven't gone bad YET.

There I fixed it for you.
We've lived in our neighborhood for over 20 years and haven't felt 'put upon' by the HOA. In fact, they *did* help get our lazy neighbors off their arse a few times.
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Old 03-08-2011, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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You clearly missed the point of the comment. Your take is that every HOA is either bad right now or is going to go bad. You can say the exact same thing about neighbors and the reason some people want to live in an HOA to begin with.

I was not attempting to comare the severity of what an HOA can do vs. what a neighbor can do.

Oh...
Well then.....
Never mind.


(spoken in the voice of the church lady)
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Old 03-08-2011, 05:11 PM
 
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we've lived in our neighborhood for over 20 years and haven't felt 'put upon' yet by the hoa. .
Fixed it
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Old 03-09-2011, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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No. Its not like saying that.

An HOA has the power to control your use of your property.
An HOA can levy fees and special assessments.
An HOA can take you to court and with 99% probability of winning.
An HOA can foreclose on your home.
An HOA can misappropriate your dues which is equivalent to steeling your money.

Your Neighbor working on his car in the driveway is not even in the same league as the evil and misery that an HOA can rain down on you when they go bad.
A municipality has the power to control your use of your property.
A municipality can levy fees and special assessments.
A municipality can take you to court and with 99% probability of winning.
A municipality can foreclose on your home.
*A municipality can misappropriate your dues which is equivalent to steeling your money.

* Unlike a municipality, an HOA can and should have adequate fidelity insurance. It's the law in some states such as my own. I wish my state carried fidelity insurance for misappropriation of state funds. All things considered in my state, I can't imagine who would underwrite this exposure.
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