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Old 08-20-2010, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Between Philadelphia and Allentown, PA
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My own thought is that this is a new generation that grew up as I did watching their own parents divorce and have been put off altogether by marriage. I think it's partly true that people (not just women) are also becoming more and more selective. It's a combination of both from my perspective.
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Old 08-20-2010, 10:59 AM
 
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What percentage are gay (and without a "beard"), or nuns, or in institutions (criminal, group homes for developmentally disabled, or otherwise). Are the people who are not allowed to marry because of religious, legal, or developmental reasons (think Prader Willie, fetal alcohol syndrome, etc) lumped in with everyone else? How about the homeless with significant mental problems?
I dont think religious groups will make a large impact. Only in the Catholic Church of all the Judeo-Christian faiths are women encouraged to live a life of celibacy in the religious life. Islam also does not encourage celibacy for women. I am not sure about Buddhism. Hinduism is also one that doesnt encourage female celibacy for life. The number of priests and nuns combined will be very low statistically. There are maybe 50,000-100,000 priests and nuns in the United States. That might be a high estimate there even. In a nationwide statistic, it wont amount to very many.

Men are why so many women are single. Men dont like modern strong women. Some will compromise to get sex out of them. Most do not like modern women. Most also do not want a highly religious woman. They want a girl somewhere in between. However, that number isnt very high and finding what they want is difficult.

It is also a function of American society. There is a culture of minding your own business and not telling others what you think they should do. Being naturally the pursued, women end up single in larger numbers because of the general attitude of being uncomfortable imposing or asserting your views of life on another. Men see from their dress and attitudes how they act and so they avoid them out of fear of telling them how they think they should act. These women dont make active attempt to pursue men so they end up in chronic singleness.
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Old 08-20-2010, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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I think it's mostly that people don't need to be married anymore. You don't need to be married to have sex, you don't need to be married to have kids. Neither men or women have to depend on the other for a good life and a nice home as they did when there were more societal and religious restrictions about such things.
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Old 08-20-2010, 11:25 AM
 
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What percentage are gay (and without a "beard"), or nuns, or in institutions (criminal, group homes for developmentally disabled, or otherwise). Are the people who are not allowed to marry because of religious, legal, or developmental reasons (think Prader Willie, fetal alcohol syndrome, etc) lumped in with everyone else? How about the homeless with significant mental problems?
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I think it's mostly that people don't need to be married anymore. You don't need to be married to have sex, you don't need to be married to have kids. Neither men or women have to depend on the other for a good life and a nice home as they did when there were more societal and religious restrictions about such things.
Given the above reasoning and the fact that young people are marrying later in life, 43% is a pretty good stat.
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Old 08-20-2010, 11:46 AM
 
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What percentage are gay (and without a "beard"), or nuns, or in institutions (criminal, group homes for developmentally disabled, or otherwise). Are the people who are not allowed to marry because of religious, legal, or developmental reasons (think Prader Willie, fetal alcohol syndrome, etc) lumped in with everyone else? How about the homeless with significant mental problems?
Half of those you mentioned aren't tallied under the census.

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Men are why so many women are single. Men dont like modern strong women. Some will compromise to get sex out of them. Most do not like modern women. Most also do not want a highly religious woman. They want a girl somewhere in between. However, that number isnt very high and finding what they want is difficult.
Men want a strong woman. We don't want a woman with a bad attitude. Difference.

Men want a modern woman. We don't want a woman who simply refuses to do anything around the house. Difference.

Men want a woman with values. We don't want a bible thumper. One can be religious and be comfortable in their own beliefs, but don't impress them upon other people as if your way of life is superior to others. Difference.

Most importantly though, men want a woman who know how to balance their lives properly without us telling them how. That means being able to juggle work, children, loved ones, friends, family, finances, "quality time", entertainment, and conversation without leaning in any one direction. The problem is that a LOT of women - not all, but a LOT - like to lean one way and disregard the rest. Either they're workaholics, only care about their kids and nobody else, only care about their boyfriends/husbands and nobody else, only care about their (girl)friends and nobody else, etc. That's what we don't what.

I've met girls who knew how to balance properly and they were sweet gals, but already taken. That's the key. If they've got their stuff in order, someone's already scooped them up.
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Old 08-20-2010, 12:26 PM
 
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Most importantly though, men want a woman who know how to balance their lives properly without us telling them how. That means being able to juggle work, children, loved ones, friends, family, finances, "quality time", entertainment, and conversation without leaning in any one direction. The problem is that a LOT of women - not all, but a LOT - like to lean one way and disregard the rest. Either they're workaholics, only care about their kids and nobody else, only care about their boyfriends/husbands and nobody else, only care about their (girl)friends and nobody else, etc. That's what we don't what.
Women want the same thing in men. Problem is a lot of men are just like the women you describe here. They lean too heavily in one direction. A guy can't expect a woman who knows how live a balanced life if he hasn't figured out how to do it himself.
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Old 08-20-2010, 12:41 PM
 
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More than half of the unmarried Americans are women. And for every 100 single women, there are 88 unmarried men available

So in other words, the women are getting increasingly picky.


Women may be getting increasingly picky, but not neccessarily for the above reason.
This is only because women live longer.

Among those under 50, the numbers are approximately equal - as one would expect. What is significant is that there is a much higher percentage of never married men than never married women and many more divorced (and not remarried) women as divorced (and not remarried) men. Among the divorced and not remarried, 80% are women. Among the never married, nearly 2/3 are men.

Just goes to show what influences women to marry. He'll either never get a reaonable chance or get repeated chances. Women consider nice guys to be creeps and frauds and creeps to just be "misunderstood" by the previous women in their life. Guaranteed to eventually give them something to complain about!
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Old 08-20-2010, 12:44 PM
 
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Women want the same thing in men. Problem is a lot of men are just like the women you describe here. They lean too heavily in one direction. A guy can't expect a woman who knows how live a balanced life if he hasn't figured out how to do it himself.
"Unbalanced" men usually have no problem getting into relationships. Women find them exciting and since they need support, many women also consider this dependancy to be a plus.
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Old 08-20-2010, 01:03 PM
 
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"Unbalanced" men usually have no problem getting into relationships. Women find them exciting and since they need support, many women also consider this dependancy to be a plus.
Getting into them is one thing. Maintaining them is another. And since this thread is about people who aren't married, then that includes the women who got into relationships and then discovered the men weren't balanced. Some women may find them exciting even like the idea of taking care of them, but most women get tired of that pretty quickly. Women can have children of their own. They don't need to marry one.
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Old 08-20-2010, 01:05 PM
 
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Getting into them is one thing. Maintaining them is another. And since this thread is about people who aren't married, then that includes the women who got into relationships and then discovered the men weren't balanced. Some women may find them exciting even like the idea of taking care of them, but most women get tired of that pretty quickly. Women can have children of their own. They don't need to marry one.
Ask Bristol Palin about this!
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