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This doesn't make sense. Modern American feminists tend to be largely comprised of educated women. I say this because based on a presentation I recently saw on line. There seems to be a strong presence in uni’s and colleges. Educated people tend to hail from higher SES backgrounds. Education and SES are both correlated with health and level of fitness.
So, these women will tend to be fit (not saying there are no fat feminists, but noting it's more likely to go the other way) compared to their less educated, more traditional counterparts. You can read about it here if interested.
Several fallacies here:
a. We're not using all American women as a sample group when talking about Britain, Ireland, and urban America. I chose those areas for a reason, because they have similar wealth, education, and SES. Therefore attempting to break them down by wealth, education, and SES is a totally different topic, where you're really just measuring the differences between fat, traditional Mississippi and fit, feminist Manhattan; if your goal is to try and model this with numbers, the goal would be to measure weight of feminist vs. nonfeminist in Manhattan, and weight of feminist vs. nonfeminist in Mississippi. To do this you would normalize by economic status, which is not what you did.
b. You're just pointing out the correlation between poor/uneducated and fat, and then trying to equate "educated" and "feminist" as the same thing. A might be correlated with B, B might be correlated with C, but that doesn't make A correlated with C.
c. My sample group is observational.
d. We don't even agree on what the word "feminist" means in the first place.
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Compared to American men, OTOH, where 65-70% are overweight, the balance between the two probably leans to your side as far as flab goes.
What does this mean, leans to your side ?
What is my side ?
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With that said, I think the trashy fat stuff has more to do with those charging than anyone on the receiving end of insults. It's funny how that works when it comes to trash talk.
So what, specifically, are you saying about "those charging" ? If you're going to insult me I'd at least like a more specific insult.
The good American women are married early. The others have confused their rolls. This stems from broken homes. American men would be 100 times happier with woman from another country. (not just Europe of Course)
Talk about confusing your roles! Ba bum ch!
I'm curious, what makes a good wife? Is it the 1950s style housewife then I don't think you should turn to any women in Western Europe, they're more independent and less likely to marry than American women. Perhaps the eastern European and former soviet countries have more subservient women, you know, the type of countries infamous for providing mail order brides. It seems many women there are taught that beauty and devotion to their husband are their most important duties and we've all heard how those romances play out...
However, I live in the south where it is many young ladies' plan to get engaged in college, marry just after, and begin having babies within the first couple years of marriage. My friend is 23 and just announced she's pregnant with her third. I have my suspicions that the ladies of the American south are not representative of all Americans.
I'm curious, what makes a good wife? Is it the 1950s style housewife then I don't think you should turn to any women in Western Europe, they're more independent and less likely to marry than American women. Perhaps the eastern European and former soviet countries have more subservient women, you know, the type of countries infamous for providing mail order brides. It seems many women there are taught that beauty and devotion to their husband are their most important duties and we've all heard how those romances play out...
Yeah, we all know that when these dudes are talking about how "foreign women" are better, they're not referring to a French biochemist or a German college professor.
Several fallacies here:
a. We're not using all American women as a sample group when talking about Britain, Ireland, and urban America. I chose those areas for a reason, because they have similar wealth, education, and SES. Therefore attempting to break them down by wealth, education, and SES is a totally different topic, where you're really just measuring the differences between fat, traditional Mississippi and fit, feminist Manhattan; if your goal is to try and model this with numbers, the goal would be to measure weight of feminist vs. nonfeminist in Manhattan, and weight of feminist vs. nonfeminist in Mississippi. To do this you would normalize by economic status, which is not what you did.
This is interesting. You take issue with my reasoning, which is fine. I correlate fair variables in ten minutes on my phone. You, OTOH, just characterize feminists as fat and do not offer any reasoning. You do not apply your own suggestions. This makes sense to you? You just invalidated your own statements.
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You're just pointing out the correlation between poor/uneducated and fat, and then trying to equate "educated" and "feminist" as the same thing. A might be correlated with B, B might be correlated with C, but that doesn't make A correlated with C.
feminists do tend to be educated. I want you to tell me why they are fat.
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. My sample group is observational.
lol of course. This is what you see when you travel around, eh?Perhaps you can mention some tv as well.
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We don't even agree on what the word "feminist" means in the first place.
how about we just stick to the dictionary definition. That seems to work well enough for most words.
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What does this mean, leans to your side ?
Men. There are more over weight men than women in the US and most likely there are a he'll of a lot more over weight men than female feminists.
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So what, specifically, are you saying about "those charging" ? If you're going to insult me I'd at least like a more specific insult.
I don't know why you need this spelled out. Given the fact that you have provided zero, rational reason for characterizing feminists as fat I suggest it has more to do with you than any woman you don't know and will never meet. I can't know what it's specifically about. Only you can know that because it's you. Understand?
However, I live in the south where it is many young ladies' plan to get engaged in college, marry just after, and begin having babies within the first couple years of marriage. My friend is 23 and just announced she's pregnant with her third. I have my suspicions that the ladies of the American south are not representative of all Americans.
I have a suspicion that your friends are not representative of all southerners.
This is interesting. You take issue with my reasoning, which is fine. I correlate fair variables in ten minutes on my phone.
yup, to me it's not a question that i would try and answer with statistical analysis. but you tried , and screwed it up.
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You, OTOH, just characterize feminists as fat and do not offer any reasoning. You do not apply your own suggestions.
Uh, I don't apply your logic to my reasoning, no. i'm just giving my views; you're the one intent on attacking me with dubious statistical analysis done "in ten minutes on your phone."
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feminists do tend to be educated. I want you to tell me why they are fat.
i guess it has to do with diet? or they may be genetically predisposed for it.
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how about we just stick to the dictionary definition. That seems to work well enough for most words.
that depends on the word's context, whether the dictionary definition hits the mark, or not.
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I don't know why you need this spelled out. Given the fact that you have provided zero, rational reason for characterizing feminists as fat I suggest it has more to do with you than any woman you don't know and will never meet.
you seem to be under the misconception that i need to convince you of my views that feminists represent a more sexually undesirable part of the female population. I don't. I have made my judgements and you're welcome to try and change them -- but I don't feel compelled to justify what I've seen.
Lets face it. Most good American women are in commited relationships and married in their 20s. The rest of American women have issues with men, been hurt/damaged, only think about themselves, been living the single life for so long that they don't know anything else.
American men would be 100 times happier with woman from another country. (not just Europe of Course)
I wouldn't say married by their early20s, but by their late 20s - that's when the "good ones" go off the shelf - and remain so. If they have a smart husband, he knows "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." True about your list as to why women stay single past this period, for the most part.
About the last sentence, don't take for granted that caucasian American men would be happier with a woman from another country. Many times, they are categorically not attracted to other races, and are not interested in living another culture 24/7, and there is nothing wrong with that.
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European women make better wives...
Here I was thinking Asian women make better wives.
