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This relationship forum kind of blows my mind a little. I know NO ONE whose view of relationships is that they are afu because women work outside the home, help with the income, don't solely tend house. Modern relationships around here look like partnerships. Decisions are made by discussion, consensus and compromise. Child rearing and domestic duties are divided based on who has more ability, time, resources whatever. Sex is a means of expressing love as well as enjoying mutual pleasure and satisfaction. Instead of focusing on what should be the "role" based on their body parts, people worry about what WORKS FOR THEM.
This relationship as ownership stake makes no sense to me. No WONDER the supposedly golden 50s where everyone behaved as their penis or lack thereof dictated no longer exists. And thank all the powers of the verse.
I know of no-one who's afu because of that either.....they're just "afu" because the wonderful ideals of the "modern relationship" you speak of...are very illusive and scarce....as is evidenced by the huge amount of people who get divorced, or can't seem to work things out.
I know of no-one who's afu because of that either.....they're just "afu" because the wonderful ideals of the "modern relationship" you speak of...are very illusive and scarce....as is evidenced by the huge amount of people who get divorced.
Blame it on "soceity" and "modern relationships". That is just a cop out for not learning how to deal. People whine about roles, men, women, society. The truth of the matter is that each individual adult has the power to grow, mature, become wise and find a mate who is the same. People don't choose to do that. They choose to think that something is going to fill the void for them, and if that doesn't happen, it is some failure on the part of all those classes; men, women, society, roles.
I am saying what I see in this relationship forum is a great many bitter people unwilling to look at the one thing that could make a difference for themselves. Themselves.
This relationship forum kind of blows my mind a little. I know NO ONE whose view of relationships is that they are afu because women work outside the home, help with the income, don't solely tend house. Modern relationships around here look like partnerships. Decisions are made by discussion, consensus and compromise. Child rearing and domestic duties are divided based on who has more ability, time, resources whatever. Sex is a means of expressing love as well as enjoying mutual pleasure and satisfaction. Instead of focusing on what should be the "role" based on their body parts, people worry about what WORKS FOR THEM.
This relationship as ownership stake makes no sense to me. No WONDER the supposedly golden 50s where everyone behaved as their penis or lack thereof dictated no longer exists. And thank all the powers of the verse.
Blame it on "soceity" and "modern relationships". That is just a cop out for not learning how to deal. People whine about roles, men, women, society. The truth of the matter is that each individual adult has the power to grow, mature, become wise and find a mate who is the same. People don't choose to do that. They choose to think that something is going to fill the void for them, and if that doesn't happen, it is some failure on the part of all those classes; men, women, society, roles.
I am saying what I see in this relationship forum is a great many bitter people unwilling to look at the one thing that could make a difference for themselves. Themselves.
Nothing in the real world is as black and white and easy as you make it out to be. Dont know where your located or how old you are, but there are places in this world where you cant get away from "society" and its gender roles.
Finding someone of like mind regarding relationships can indeed be difficult if not downright impossible.
Nothing in the real world is as black and white and easy as you make it out to be. Dont know where your located or how old you are, but there are places in this world where you cant get away from "society" and its gender roles.
Finding someone of like mind regarding relationships can indeed be difficult if not downright impossible.
Yeah. What was you point? You believe we are not products of our environment.
I agree with your idea, but just know its not always that cut and dry especially for the older generation. It takes time to change societies views on what is acceptable.
When you live in a society where 80%+ of the population holds onto some form of gender role and it is excepted in your workplace, school, church, family, etc., it is not so easy as to say all people have the means to become more enlightened and those that are should be 100% able to, what, change the world or find a person that feels 100% the way they do. Life is more complicated than that.
Im not sure why you think people are placing blame. You can choose to as you say "deal" with the attitudes by refusing to abide by them which mean either being alone or struggling in a relationship or your lucky enough to find those illusive and scarce people (in many areas) that dont go for the role playing.
Even in my second marriage to a man of like mind those roles creep into your world if you interact with others.
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