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I don't know, it actually seems easier for guys. If a guy takes care of himself, looks decent, is smart, isn't lazy, knows how to talk to women, it seems like they can just go out and find someone. And this might sound old fashioned, but even in today's world, the dating game is still up to the man. A guy can approach a woman he's interested in, if she turns him down, he finds someone else he's interested in. But for a girl, she first has to find someone she's interested in, then she has to find a way to get him to be interested back in her enough to ask her out. I mean, yeah, she can ask him out initially, but then the guy usually gets lazy and lets her do everything and takes her for granted and end up being the ahole people post about on the internet.
Sorry, but I disagree with this 100%.
I mean, in this statement alone, you've proven why it's much harder for us guys to get women. WE have to be the ones to talk to women. WE have to deal with the rejection. WE'RE the ones who have to do all the work while women just have to pick and choose. The ball is totally in your court. It only seems easiest for "alpha" males (read tall, dark and handsome types).
I'll give you my situation: I'm a short, black guy, about to be 30, living in NYC (mind you, the highest population in the country). I don't even follow that shallow crap that a woman can't be fat as I like bigger types myself. I also don't look for the highly attractive ones...just ones with a down-to-earth personality. I do want to be attracted to the woman, but that doesn't take much i.e. a nice smile is enough to attract me. Why does it still seem so impossible for me to get ANYWHERE with women? I (at least I think I do) dress nicely when I go out, I'm talkative and very outgoing (love being out in nature and going to bars). Never really get any responses on dating sites (I'm on 2 and my messages actually have substance to them) and I'm even in a Meetup group where there is an abundance of women, yet I still get nowhere.
Dating easier for men .
BTW, I ADMIT I'm bitter, so there's no reason for anyone to bring it up.
I mean, in this statement alone, you've proven why it's much harder for us guys to get women. WE have to be the ones to talk to women. WE have to deal with the rejection. WE'RE the ones who have to do all the work while women just have to pick and choose. The ball is totally in your court. It only seems easiest for "alpha" males (read tall, dark and handsome types).
I'll give you my situation: I'm a short, black guy, about to be 30, living in NYC (mind you, the highest population in the country). I don't even follow that shallow crap that a woman can't be fat as I like bigger types myself. I also don't look for the highly attractive ones...just ones with a down-to-earth personality. I do want to be attracted to the woman, but that doesn't take much i.e. a nice smile is enough to attract me. Why does it still seem so impossible for me to get ANYWHERE with women? I (at least I think I do) dress nicely when I go out, I'm talkative and very outgoing (love being out in nature and going to bars). Never really get any responses on dating sites (I'm on 2 and my messages actually have substance to them) and I'm even in a Meetup group where there is an abundance of women, yet I still get nowhere.
Dating easier for men .
BTW, I ADMIT I'm bitter, so there's no reason for anyone to bring it up.
Dating is a lot easier for a guy. All we have to do is find a pretty girl, not be a total loser, and say "Want to eat something sometime?". How hard is that?
Who is "he"? You're making up some guy who doesn't exist in the lives of plenty of women.
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Originally Posted by JetJockey
Exactly. This dude definitely doesn't exist in my life.
Right, and Bob Ross painted pictures of the crucifixion.
You two are shining examples of how being "strong" equates to being "blunt," "direct" and "bold." Which equates to, "I am woman, I will be heard." In other words, the problem with many American women today.
Then again, y'all live in the urban Northeast, so I'm not shocked (not that we don't have our share here in California).
As a slight aside:
Adam Carolla, the comedian, once said it best: treat a woman like a cat. Females are feline in their behaviors, if you really think about it. Except I have something to add to that: Women, like cats, are easily creeped out, anyway, but today they're also spoiled with silk beds and Fancy Feast, figuratively speaking. Unless a man is Channing Tatum or a sugar daddy, then they're "the dream."
Yours truly,
A guy at least smart enough to see through bull
Dating is a lot easier for a guy. All we have to do is find a pretty girl, not be a total loser, and say "Want to eat something sometime?". How hard is that?
I fail to see where that's easier for us. She has to accept the date first, right? Also, I've stated that looks aren't all that important to me, yet I'm even having trouble getting an average to below average woman. It's frustrating.
-From a guys POV just be straight and honest. Don't flirt with a guy then later down the road say you have a b.f already. In fact don't flirt with a guy unless you're truly single.
-Try and make your hints pretty noticeable, sometimes guy don't pick up on them.
-Don't assume because he is ignoring you he doesn't like you and forget about it.
I mean, in this statement alone, you've proven why it's much harder for us guys to get women. WE have to be the ones to talk to women. WE have to deal with the rejection. WE'RE the ones who have to do all the work while women just have to pick and choose. The ball is totally in your court. It only seems easiest for "alpha" males (read tall, dark and handsome types).
I'll give you my situation: I'm a short, black guy, about to be 30, living in NYC (mind you, the highest population in the country). I don't even follow that shallow crap that a woman can't be fat as I like bigger types myself. I also don't look for the highly attractive ones...just ones with a down-to-earth personality. I do want to be attracted to the woman, but that doesn't take much i.e. a nice smile is enough to attract me. Why does it still seem so impossible for me to get ANYWHERE with women? I (at least I think I do) dress nicely when I go out, I'm talkative and very outgoing (love being out in nature and going to bars). Never really get any responses on dating sites (I'm on 2 and my messages actually have substance to them) and I'm even in a Meetup group where there is an abundance of women, yet I still get nowhere.
Dating easier for men .
BTW, I ADMIT I'm bitter, so there's no reason for anyone to bring it up.
Well, there you have it.
If you're approaching anybody, isn't the ball in your court first when you pick the women you're talking to? That's picking and choosing as well. After all, you're in a city with millions and millions of people to choose from.
A rejection is far better than being stuck in a dysfunctional relationship.
Women need to be less impulsively judgmental of men who approach them. At the same time, women need to place themselves in situations where they’re more likely to be approached by quality men.
Men need to be bolder about who to approach, and less judgmental about superficial qualities that entice the approach. At the same time, they need to place themselves in situations where they’re more likely to be around quality women who merit the approach.
The problem for both genders is how to increase the number of situations where other singles are available and approachable. This is where our society has failed. We don’t offer enough opportunites for serious-minded singles to mingle. This is why we end up with casual hook-ups, sugar-daddies, manipulations and prevarications.
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