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Old 04-23-2013, 04:54 AM
 
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So a friend recently told me that I don't talk to enough girls in response to me complaining about not having a girlfriend. And my response to him was that it won't really matter if I talk to girls because I have no game and I've gotten nothing but rejection in the past. On top of that, it doesn't seem like experience really helps me. What do you guys think?
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Old 04-23-2013, 05:11 AM
 
Location: a primitive state
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There's no such thing as "game."

Coming up with fake crap is a great way to get rejected or to find a women who is exactly wrong for you.

Yes. Talk to the ones who seem approachable. Say hello and smile. Women like that.

Then let them do the talking. If you come up blank, say "I like your hair (or shoes or backpack, or dangly earrings...whatever you like about her)." Then let her talk some more. Pay attention and answer accordingly.

Then ask, do you like to...watch soccer? Or anything else you can possibly have in common.

If she says no, smile again and wait for her to say something else. Then tell her you need to go. Say "see ya later."

If all goes well, eventually some girl will start talking to you automatically, because she's already talked to you before..

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Old 04-23-2013, 05:16 AM
 
Location: New Zealand and Australia
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Lower your standards and you will get a GF. That is your problem by the sounds of it.
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Old 04-23-2013, 05:24 AM
 
Location: Viña del Mar, Chile
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There's no such thing as "game."

Coming up with fake crap is a great way to get rejected or to find a women who is exactly wrong for you.

Yes. Talk to the ones who seem approachable. Say hello and smile. Women like that.

Then let them do the talking. If you come up blank, say "I like your hair (or shoes or backpack, or dangly earrings...whatever." Then let the talk some more. Then answer accordingly.

Then ask, do you like to...watch soccer? Or anything else you can possibly have in common.

If she says no, smile again and wait for her to say something else. Then tell her you need to go. Then say "see ya later."

If all goes well, eventually some girl will start talking to you automatically, because she can.

There is definitely such thing as game.

Game is not coming up with lies and tricks... game is being able to talk to women in a way that makes them attracted to you. There's a reason why some guys can talk to a woman and be likable and why some just come off as awkward.



OP, everything is learnable, you just have to put some effort into it. If you want to get better at talking to women, you're going to have to talk to them more.. but also critique yourself and figure out what you're doing wrong.
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Old 04-23-2013, 05:38 AM
 
Location: NY
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Short answer: YES.

You do not need "game," or be a player to talk to women and have a gf. In fact, if you are not confident and comfortable approaching and talking to women you have some sort of attraction or interest in, you NEED to talk to more women to learn how to talk to them and to learn about yourself.

Some guys are naturally more comfortable with themselves in that environment than others. Those who are not can overcome their anxieties and get better at it, but it usually means continuing to approach women and learning from each encounter.

Also, not all women are looking for the same thing. Some will reject an approach that other's will accept. The real key is know yourself, what your looking for, and be confident and comfortable on the inside when you approach women so that you can act and talk naturally with them (like in any other social situation).
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Old 04-23-2013, 07:55 AM
 
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So a friend recently told me that I don't talk to enough girls in response to me complaining about not having a girlfriend. And my response to him was that it won't really matter if I talk to girls because I have no game and I've gotten nothing but rejection in the past. On top of that, it doesn't seem like experience really helps me. What do you guys think?
i think your friend is right. it is all about having options.

say you're a young man... generally speaking, you can't afford to get "one-itis", and get fixated on one girl. It just doesn't work that way. You have to talk to a LOT of girls, and see which ones are amenable to your company. Those are the girls you make a point to talk to, make a point to ask out, get their number, and stick your neck out and risk rejection. The other ones -- the ones who seem cold from the get-go -- just ignore them. Seriously. There will always be girls who simply will not like you, period, for reasons that are not worth trying to figure out.

for some guys, about 3 out of every 4 women they meet will be 'friendly'. They have options without having to think about anything. (This also describes the majority of young women.)

for most guys, it's more like 1 out of every 4 will even potentially be interested. If this is your fate (like most men) , then in order to have options you have to 'make the rounds' and meet a lot of people.

The alternative is to wait around until someone shows interest in you, in which case you're taking an extremely passive role, limiting your options, and basically settling for whatever you can get.

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Old 04-23-2013, 07:57 AM
 
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So a friend recently told me that I don't talk to enough girls in response to me complaining about not having a girlfriend. And my response to him was that it won't really matter if I talk to girls because I have no game and I've gotten nothing but rejection in the past. On top of that, it doesn't seem like experience really helps me. What do you guys think?

You don't have an Xbox? That's too bad, I thought everyone had one of those well, except for me but I hate those type of games.
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Old 04-23-2013, 08:06 AM
 
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So a friend recently told me that I don't talk to enough girls in response to me complaining about not having a girlfriend. And my response to him was that it won't really matter if I talk to girls because I have no game and I've gotten nothing but rejection in the past. On top of that, it doesn't seem like experience really helps me. What do you guys think?
He's right. The more you talk to girls, the more confident and comfortable you will be talking to girls. Even the smoothest guys get rejected a lot. Difference is they don't dwell on it but just move on to the next one. It's a numbers game. You need to get out there and talk to as many girls as possible. Talk to every girl you can about everything, not just the ones you're after. You'll learn a lot and you might meet someone unexpected.
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Old 04-23-2013, 08:32 AM
 
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So a friend recently told me that I don't talk to enough girls in response to me complaining about not having a girlfriend. And my response to him was that it won't really matter if I talk to girls because I have no game and I've gotten nothing but rejection in the past. On top of that, it doesn't seem like experience really helps me. What do you guys think?

Watch the movie: "Hitch"

You are probably just giving off wrong vibes.

Girls are very interesting.

Just say "Hi" or comment on something that is going on around you.

When you do this she acknowledges you first of all.

After that its up to her to further the conversation or run.
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Old 04-23-2013, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Up in the air
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Why can't you just talk to women like they're human beings and not expect them to become your girlfriend? We can have conversations and be interesting to talk to ya know.

Then you wouldn't have to worry about rejection and you may make a few friends in the process who will then introduce you to THEIR friends.
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