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Depends entirely on the two people involved. In college I knew a colorful pair of professors; he was an inveterate misogynist, and she was a complete misandrist. And yet they were married to each other for more than 40 years. So you never know....
Sounds like they deserved each other, and did a favor to society by keeping each other out of the dating pool. Good for them.
Of course there are going to be extremes in every group, I'm not disputing that.
If you focus on the extremists as the entire group (as MANY people seem to do with feminists) you ignore what the group is really trying to do.
But the problem is. This is not a minority view among feminists. This is a majority view.
In Norway feminism became really big during the 70s. Families gave their boys girls toys. Males were encouraged to become nurses and females to become engineers. Many women even stopped shaving their arm pits. Most young men supported the movement.
Today most Norwegian young men hate feminism. That is because they realized those feminists had zero intention to work for equality. For instance feminists was able to force all corporations to have 40% female leaders, but the draft remained only for males. At University, 60% of the students are female. Still about 100 courses are given easier requirements for females, while males got 2 courses. Feminists was able to get men to be more home and take care of the children and do housework, but they would still lose them if she initiated a divorce.
Things has started to get a little bit better, but only because men has been fighting for it. For instance divorce courts are much better now, and in 25% of the cases 50/50 custody is awarded. That was something many self declared feminists resisted.
You can see the same in America too. Where are the feminists on the biased divorce courts? Just like men in the past, they are fighting for females issues. They are not fighting for equality. Of course not all feminists are like this, but too many are. This has tainted the reputation of the feminist movement.
Usually, self proclaimed alpha makes (like the op) are douchebags. They are not, nor will ever be an "alpha male." Alpha males don't spend their time worrying about being alpha, nor do they come here start ridiculous thread after thread about whatever dysfunction they are attempting to justify. They also don't worry about feminist.
But the problem is. This is not a minority view among feminists. This is a majority view.
In Norway feminism became really big during the 70s. Families gave their boys girls toys. Males were encouraged to become nurses and females to become engineers. Many women even stopped shaving their arm pits. Most young men supported the movement.
Today most Norwegian young men hate feminism. That is because they realized those feminists had zero intention to work for equality. For instance feminists was able to force all corporations to have 40% female leaders, but the draft remained only for males. At University, 60% of the students are female. Still about 100 courses are given easier requirements for females, while males got 2 courses. Feminists was able to get men to be more home and take care of the children and do housework, but they would still lose them if she initiated a divorce.
Things has started to get a little bit better, but only because men has been fighting for it. For instance divorce courts are much better now, and in 25% of the cases 50/50 custody is awarded. You can see the same in America too. Where are the feminists on the biased divorce courts? Just like men in the past, they are fighting for females issues. They are not fighting for equality.
Female genetial mutilation is only common among Muslim cultures. Non-muslims had little to worry about. They wouldn't have laughed about female genetial mutiliation even if it wasn't practiced in the middle east.
No, they're not the majority...I'm involved in a lot of feminist circles and I can very confidently say it's not the majority.
As for the bolded, do you have proof that women in university were given less strict requirements? As for the draft, it should be completely abolished which is what most of the feminists I know are fighting for. Also, women WANT to be included in that...look at the uproar caused when women wanted to join the front lines in combat.
And for divorces, you have to be careful with those statistics...I'll try to find the last paper I read about it, but if I remember correctly in 80%+ cases men were awarded the custody they preferred when they asked for it...the problem was MOST men don't want custody and that skews the statistics. That comes from personal experience as well. Two of my friends have full custody over their kids because their ex husbands wanted nothing to do with them and didn't want any type of custody. They are perfectly happy pretending not to be Dads and seeing their kids once a month.
As for genital mutilation, there are groups of feminists trying to stop circumcision as well.
I don't think there will ever be 'true' equality, but I do think there should be true opportunity.
Usually, self proclaimed alpha makes (like the op) are douchebags. They are not, nor will ever be an "alpha male." Alpha males don't spend their time worrying about being alpha, nor do they come here start ridiculous thread after thread about whatever dysfunction they are attempting to justify. They also don't worry about feminist.
No, they're not the majority...I'm involved in a lot of feminist circles and I can very confidently say it's not the majority.
Maybe your circles are different? Are you sure they are really fighting for those issues?
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As for the bolded, do you have proof that women in university were given less strict requirements?
I do. Look here Kjønnspoeng - Samordna opptak just translate it.
And that's a lot better than in the past when they had their own quotas. Hence, females had no requirements to get into those studies.
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As for the draft, it should be completely abolished which is what most of the feminists I know are fighting for. Also, women WANT to be included in that...look at the uproar caused when women wanted to join the front lines in combat.
Even though feminists got in power in Norway since the 70s, the male draft still remains. I had to pretend I had anxiety problems to get away. I don't want to waste a year in the military getting paid almost nothing. ($5000 a year)
In fact the socialist party which is openly feminist still want to force men into military. Why would they have that in their party platform if feminists are fighting for abolishing the draft?
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And for divorces, you have to be careful with those statistics...I'll try to find the last paper I read about it, but if I remember correctly in 80%+ cases men were awarded the custody they preferred when they asked for it...the problem was MOST men don't want custody and that skews the statistics. That comes from personal experience as well. Two of my friends have full custody over their kids because their ex husbands wanted nothing to do with them and didn't want any type of custody. They are perfectly happy pretending not to be Dads and seeing their kids once a month.
That is complete hogwash. First off this is only the cases when the dad is aiming for jackpot. You don't go to court asking for custody if you have no argument for it. To get custody of the child you have to prove she is unfit, and if you have no proof of that then it will just make your case worse.
The problem in America is the lack of joint custody, meaning a 50/50 deal. I believe if a mother is asking for full custody against Dads will, then at least the Dad should not be forced to pay child support. Child support payment should be for Dads who are not willing or able to take care of their kids.
As long as the mother is not on drugs, she will get custody in nearly all cases no matter how good the husband is. That is extremely unfair for the dads who are not able to see their kids and at the same time have to pay extra money. I see no feminists in America fighting for Dads rights. If you want to see how unfair it is, take a look at the few cases where the woman loses her children. Those women often go into a deep depression. A lot of them never pay their child support and just becomes deadbeat mums. Still many of them wanted to do the exact same to their husbands.
Maybe your circles are different? Are you sure they are really fighting for those issues?
I do. Look here Kjønnspoeng - Samordna opptak just translate it.
And that's a lot better than in the past when they had their own quotas. Hence, females had no requirements to get into those studies.
Even though feminists got in power in Norway since the 70s, the male draft still remains. I had to pretend I had mental problems to get away. I don't want to waste a year in the military getting paid almost nothing. ($5000 a year)
In fact the socialist party which is openly feminist still want to force men into military. Why would they have that in their party platform if feminists are fighting for abolishing the draft?
Maybe feminists in Norway are different, I don't have experience with them there. Here in the US and within my feminist circles we are definitely angling towards equality.
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That is complete hogwash. First off this is only the cases when the dad is aiming for jackpot. You don't go to court asking for custody if you have no argument for it. To get custody of the child you have to prove she is unfit, and if you have no proof of that then it will just make your case worse.
The problem in America is the lack of joint custody, meaning a 50/50 deal. I believe if a mother is asking for full custody against Dads will, then at least the Dad should not be forced to pay child custody. Child custody payment should be for Dads who are not willing or able to take care of their kids.
As long as the mother is not on drugs, she will get custody in nearly all cases no matter how good the husband is. That is extremely unfair for the dads who are not able to see their kids and at the same time have to pay extra money. I see no feminists in America fighting for Dads rights. If you want to see how unfair it is, take a look at the few cases where the woman loses her children. Those women often go into a deep depression. A lot of them never pay their child support and just becomes deadbeat mums. Still many of them wanted to do the exact same to their husbands.
It's not 'hogwash', it's what I've personally experienced. If both parents agree on joint custody, then joint custody is what they get. It's only when the fighting begins that these things come up. I don't have kids, I have a very limited number of friends who have kids so I will say my experience with it isn't necessarily varied...but in the few cases I have born witness to, the Fathers didn't WANT custody and the Mother's had to actively force the Fathers to see their kids until they just gave up. Now, when those men came whining about how evil the Mother was for 'keeping his children away' to gain sympathy it was pretty easy for me to call BS since I was there through it all. Hell, I know of two men who moved out of the country to get away from the responsibility of their kids and paying child support. Classy gentleman.
Now, who is saying men are unfit? Is it women, or is it the patriarchy who is telling everyone that women are the nurturers and that men cannot possibly take care of children like women can? I don't think that's necessarily 'feminists' fault, that's the fault of people who are pigeonholing men and women into traditional gender roles. Now...who normally does that? Just a different perspective.
What if these people also happen to be hideously ugly and have very limited sexual skills?
Has nothing to do with looks, physique, or sexual skills. Again, it has to do with who he is as a person, his actions and deeds, and the respect he commands (NOT demands) as a leader in his career and community.
If you have to ask these things, you are not an alpha male. And as others here have said, your posting history proves it.
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Good for them.
