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Old 06-27-2013, 08:48 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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I went to Australia in 2000. I loved it, but I didn't find the women there to really care that I was American. They weren't all over me or anything. I could have moved there because I loved the culture, but I don't know that I would have had any more luck with the women.

Next year I'm going to Spain. I think my future wife is there. Thats the look I want (think Penelope Cruz) and I love the culture. She's definitely not in Oklahoma City, thats for sure.
Get the flock out of Ok for one thing...... I hate to generalize and be nasty but I think you need to get back to a larger metro...... you don't strike me as the boots and cowboy hat wearing type....

 
Old 06-27-2013, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma City, OK
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Meeting people in a country as large as the USA seems like it can be done... all this talk of moving to a continent 7k miles away just seems odd to me.....
Desperate times. I need to buy a Russian bride, lol.
 
Old 06-27-2013, 09:07 PM
 
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Prince_Frog[/color];30175127]Boy I'd like to know what planet this is so I can move there. LOL
your avatar name says it all
 
Old 06-27-2013, 11:22 PM
 
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Directed towards the OP…

I hear you sister….

The are out there only they are not the ones that usually come forth first…
You need to weed them out…

This is not easy either I do not want to state that it is..
But it is easy to see who wants serious and who wants to sleep around and “Hang out”

Bottom line…
Guys that invest in questions that may seem judging? Usually are feeling out someone for the same…

The guys who only comment on your looks? ARE USUALLY out for one thing…There is much more to a woman than looks…
It is okay to complement on a womans looks but after awhile? If it pertains to just surface superficial topics? It is a pretty easy to guess,.

Also asking questions is okay..I will always ask someone what they are looking for…if they state “I am not looking for anything serious right now” Umm..NEXT…
They are looking to “Hang out” and they want the bennies of a long term meaning in the sack..and last time I looked? I was not in college anymore…

After a few dates and they do not text back? Oh well, next..I have not time to worry about these guys..lol

The guy who hits me up after a date with a lot of cute texts yet does not ask me for another date? I do not care how cute you are..you are obviously sitting on the fence or are talking to other women which is fine by me and it is time to open the lines of communication to others…

It does not happen so fast sometimes sad to say…
But the best thing? Is to know your worth..
Act like a lady…
Give respect and demand it in return since you are giving the same in kind..
If you are just out for dating? Then go for it..
If your are looking for something like a monogamous relationship? Do not waste your time nor give it freely..
And to all those men that disagree? Good for them…Thank goodness they are the only ones on this good green earth..lol
In the meanwhile? Do not make men a priority nor a relationship..
Enjoy all life has to give and never regret a breath you take..
Enjoy your friends, your family, children and self above all else..
 
Old 06-28-2013, 04:02 AM
 
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Desperate times. I need to buy a Russian bride, lol.
That is MUCH more complicated than you think it is. If you try to "order" one, your going to get ripped off big time. The only way to even hope to make that work is if you learn to speak Russian very well, go to Russia for some kind of work/long term assignment and start looking.

If my girl friend leaves me then I have thought about doing this, I work in a field where I could feasibly transfer to Russia for work, just need to order rosetta stone and start learning now as Russian is a hard language to learn and will likely take at least a year doing it part time.

I have also heard that the women over there don't nessicarily swoon over American men like we have been lead to believe and even if you physically go there you run the risk of her simply using you as a path to a green card.

Another option is Hungary but I don't even know what their economy is other than tourism and im pretty sure I could not easily transfer there but it might be a better dating scene.

One thing I was trying to find online is if there is a sort of Russian or Hungarian "hot or not" so you could see if women of a certain nationality are actually attracted to YOU, the hope being that if American women dont give you a second glance perhaps other cultures find different things attractive.

I know for a fact that few American women find me attractive and I have to scratch and claw for relationships which is why I have done so much homework on this topic, its not a good feeling to have so little game with American women that if my girl friend were to dump me I would be totally screwed.

Right now rosetta stone is on sale, im hoping it stays on sale a bit longer.

Its exhausting being unattractive lol. Even if the stress of it all puts me in an early grave what else are guys like me going to do, sit around masterbating to internet porn, that's not acceptable for me.
 
Old 06-28-2013, 06:30 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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LOL The posts on this particular thread sound so depressing.

In my experience, it really depends on the woman and man when it comes to dating. Relocation is perhaps not the answer.

I really don't understand why SOME Of you so obsessed over location, location, location. Finding a woman and a man to love is not like finding an investment property.

Do SOME of you honestly believe men and women from different countries and cultures want different things? They still want to be treated with trust, love, and mutual respect.

If I have to make an absolutely gross generalization, I'd say the follow five cities have the world's best looking men.

1. Amsterdam 2. New York City 3. Sydney 4. Milan 5. Tokyo

However, the one I love is not from any of these above cities and he is absolutely the best for me. Traveling when I was younger opened my eyes to world culture, and also taught me to stay open minded.

Boy, have I seen some butt ugly people and nasty characters all over the places!! The bottom line is (and we can agree to disagree), If you are attractive, have an amazing personality and reasonable expectations, you should have absolutely no problems finding equally desirable people in any countries.

My girlfriend sent me this shocking article yesterday and I just feel, Damn the author must be mentally retarded. Does she sound bitter,

She posted, "American men are the most likely to cheat on you, to divorce you, to get fat, to steal half of your money in the divorce courts, they don’t know how to cook or clean, and want you to have their children. (Oftentimes, ruining your vagina in the process!) Therefore, what intelligent woman would want to get involved with American men? American men are generally immature, selfish, extremely arrogant and self-centered, mentally unstable, irresponsible, and highly unchaste. The behavior of most American men is utterly disgusting, to say the least. American men are inferior to foreign men (especially in bed), and American women should boycott American men, and date/marry only foreign men. BOYCOTT AMERICAN MEN!"

Why American Women Should Boycott American Men | Twenty Four At Heart

With an attitude like that, no wonder this lady has problems finding men with desirable qualities. I doubt relocation will change her life to the better.

**** Disclaimer The above post is not directed at the OP or anybody who participated in this discussion. Don't take anything I posted personally. Thanks. ****
 
Old 06-28-2013, 06:30 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma City, OK
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That is MUCH more complicated than you think it is. If you try to "order" one, your going to get ripped off big time. The only way to even hope to make that work is if you learn to speak Russian very well, go to Russia for some kind of work/long term assignment and start looking.

If my girl friend leaves me then I have thought about doing this, I work in a field where I could feasibly transfer to Russia for work, just need to order rosetta stone and start learning now as Russian is a hard language to learn and will likely take at least a year doing it part time.

I have also heard that the women over there don't nessicarily swoon over American men like we have been lead to believe and even if you physically go there you run the risk of her simply using you as a path to a green card.

Another option is Hungary but I don't even know what their economy is other than tourism and im pretty sure I could not easily transfer there but it might be a better dating scene.

One thing I was trying to find online is if there is a sort of Russian or Hungarian "hot or not" so you could see if women of a certain nationality are actually attracted to YOU, the hope being that if American women dont give you a second glance perhaps other cultures find different things attractive.

I know for a fact that few American women find me attractive and I have to scratch and claw for relationships which is why I have done so much homework on this topic, its not a good feeling to have so little game with American women that if my girl friend were to dump me I would be totally screwed.

Right now rosetta stone is on sale, im hoping it stays on sale a bit longer.

Its exhausting being unattractive lol. Even if the stress of it all puts me in an early grave what else are guys like me going to do, sit around masterbating to internet porn, that's not acceptable for me.
It was a joke anyway. I would never do that.

Its exhausting being an introvert in a world full of extroverts. Makes it hard to meet women. I'm told I'm attractive, but it doesn't matter if you can't start a random conversation with a stranger.
 
Old 06-28-2013, 06:36 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma City, OK
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LOL The posts on this particular thread sound so depressing.

In my experience, it really depends on the woman and man when it comes to dating. Relocation is perhaps not the answer.

I really don't understand why SOME Of you so obsessed over location, location, location. Finding a woman and a man to love is not like finding an investment property.

Do SOME of you honestly believe men and women from different countries and cultures want different things? They still want to be treated with trust, love, and mutual respect.

If I have to make an absolutely gross generalization, I'd say the follow five cities have the world's best looking men.

1. Amsterdam 2. New York City 3. Sydney 4. Milan 5. Tokyo

However, the one I love is not from any of these above cities and he is absolutely the best for me. Traveling when I was younger opened my eyes to world culture, and also taught me to stay open minded.

Boy, have I seen some butt ugly people and nasty characters all over the places!! The bottom line is (and we can agree to disagree), If you are attractive, have an amazing personality and reasonable expectations, you should have absolutely no problems finding equally desirable people in any countries.

My girlfriend sent me this shocking article yesterday and I just feel, Damn the author must be mentally retarded. Does she sound bitter,

She posted, "American men are the most likely to cheat on you, to divorce you, to get fat, to steal half of your money in the divorce courts, they don’t know how to cook or clean, and want you to have their children. (Oftentimes, ruining your vagina in the process!) Therefore, what intelligent woman would want to get involved with American men? American men are generally immature, selfish, extremely arrogant and self-centered, mentally unstable, irresponsible, and highly unchaste. The behavior of most American men is utterly disgusting, to say the least. American men are inferior to foreign men (especially in bed), and American women should boycott American men, and date/marry only foreign men. BOYCOTT AMERICAN MEN!"

Why American Women Should Boycott American Men | Twenty Four At Heart

With an attitude like that, no matter this lady has problems finding men with quality. I doubt relocation will change her life to the better.
Lily, I respectfully disagree. It is all about location. I believe the OP when she talks about how bad the dating scene is in Denver for women. Its awful here in Oklahoma City. I'll tell you why. This is the bible belt. The culture here is to get married in your early 20's and start having kids. The divorce rate is also high. So guess what my available pool is. Its women 30-50 with 2-3 kids who either don't want more or can't have more. The only women who contact me on dating sites KNOW they're way outside of what I'm looking for, as they're 45+ with 3 kids! No!!!! I want a woman 30-40 who preferably doesn't have kids, but one would be ok if she wants another. Guess what? It doesn't exist here! Beyond awful. I'm in dating HELL.
 
Old 06-28-2013, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Lily, I respectfully disagree. It is all about location. I believe the OP when she talks about how bad the dating scene is in Denver for women. Its awful here in Oklahoma City. I'll tell you why. This is the bible belt. The culture here is to get married in your early 20's and start having kids. The divorce rate is also high. So guess what my available pool is. Its women 30-50 with 2-3 kids who either don't want more or can't have more. The only women who contact me on dating sites KNOW they're way outside of what I'm looking for, as they're 45+ with 3 kids! No!!!! I want a woman 30-40 who preferably doesn't have kids, but one would be ok if she wants another. Guess what? It doesn't exist here! Beyond awful. I'm in dating HELL.
Please don't take it as a personal attack as I am only trying to be a little bit helpful. I am obviously not a dating expert, but I wonder if you are "willing" to think outside the box.

I don't know your situation, but I still highly doubt you cannot even find one highly desirable woman for you to date in the ENTIRE Oklahoma city. Could it be that you are not sending out the right signal to the kind of woman you want to attract?

My good friend (Let's call him John) has been on dating site for six month now and he didn't have much success either.

John is a 35 year old young professional currently works for a fortune 500 company in New York city. He kind of looks like Paul Walker.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-z4-RZ1A1JD...l%2Bwalker.jpg

Everybody is so shocked that he couldn't find any dates on dating site. (He is tired of the bar scene)

According to a reliable source, "New York City’s population is 53% female and 47% male. This is a widely cited statistic that often supports an argument that the gender imbalance makes it more difficult for some women to find a partner. More interestingly, the ratio varies widely by neighborhood (we used Census Public Use Microdata Areas). On the Upper East Side, young single women outnumber young single men nearly 2 to 1. "

NYCEDC • Ratio of Single Men to Single Women in NYC New...

So what are the problems of my friend?

well, first of all, he posted cookie cutter profile. If you don’t put any thought into your online dating profile, chances are no one’s going to give you a second thought. And the whole point of online dating is to attract people and get them to reach out to you. He honestly doesn't know how to "sell" himself on dating site, I think this is his number one problem.

He is also very impatient. He gives up too easily. If at first you don’t succeed, don’t give up! Even if sparks don’t fly with someone you initially meet online, it doesn’t mean that he won’t turn into a great friend or helpful business contact.

Dating is suppose to be fun.
 
Old 06-28-2013, 08:47 AM
 
Location: State of Transition
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I hear you sister….

The are out there only they are not the ones that usually come forth first…
You need to weed them out…
I think you're onto something. The type of guy the OP is looking for may be slightly more reticent than the guys who are just out for themselves. It takes time to dig below the surface and find the quieter ones in a crowd, then get to know them to discover which ones you have something in common with. The right guy for her may not be the one there's instant chemistry with. It may the kind of guy who grows on her over time. She might not even notice him at first. That involves sticking with a given crowd long enough to get to know everyone, not just blow in, and expect someone to step up and ask her out. The ones who step right up are the ones who aren't working out for her, because their motives are different than hers.
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