At my age, I look great at first glance only (girlfriends, females)
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I think you guys are arguing over symantics, but the older guy young women situation does occur with some regularity, although not the majority or "most" relationships. Guess it also all depends on how you want to define this situation 3, 5, 10, 20 year difference?
And Dewdrop, you argue very well but often insert inflamatory descriptions in attempt to prove your point; e.g., hooker verses younger women who accept financial support in exchange for companionship, and possibly sex. Is every woman who does that a hooker???
Lets get real, youth beauty and sex come with a price tag in our culture, whether directly or indirectly, and in many other relationships despite what you may call that relationship, even if its a marriage. That was one of the lessons I learned from being married: there are many women who would accept the same financial support and lifestyle I was offering my ex-wife in exchange for companionship and sex so why was i putting up with all the marital b.s. that was happening between us?. And I essentially proved that point to myself a few months later after our divorce by having the same living arrangement with a 20something gf.
And then I discovered there are a lot of women and coeds who are totally cool with having these type of discrete relationships with an older man for the right amount of regular financial support, and they weren't or didn't consider themselves hookers, prostitutes, call girls, escorts, gold diggers or other derogatory names. They had regular lives (including bf), didn't do it as their sole source of income, and you would never know it if you met them. And yes, they wanted a committed exclusive relationship that often involved an emotional dimension more intimate than friendship, short of bf-gf status, and most importantly IMHO, without the drama and b.s. of typical committed LTR or marriage. Because when we are together, we are both on our best behavior respecting each other's expectations, limits, and privacy, otherwise it becomes undone.
There is also one important point to note, there is certainly a generational difference in the attitudes of these women that's probably more attributed to the influence of porn exposure to the younger generation (more liberal views on sex, multiple partners, awareness of mens desire and how to please, etc), our economic times (limited resources, greater cost of living, desire for more discretionary spending, etc), and just a fundamental desire to be "taken care of" by a man of means during their career development years.
Forget about traditional dating, these private arrangements exists offering the same mutual benefits of older man/young women relationships without the public scrutiny, derogatory name calling, or relationship commitment or drama.
Yep, celebraties and rich men are banging younger women, but so are a lot of other men, and fyi I also hear that many married men do it to.
I mentioned hookers because the poster I was responding to was talking about hookers. I wasn't being inflammatory - just addressing a specific part of the post.
Look, I would never sleep with someone in exchange for money but if other women want to do it, that's their decision. But once again, having an arrangement with someone like that is not what the OP was talking about. If someone is willing to sleep with you in return for you paying her bills and whatnot - that is not the same as seeing you on the street and checking you out. In fact, I'd say that you are proving my point in that the "nontraditional" scenarios in which you are talking about are not based on the physical attraction that a 20 something year old woman feels for a man in his 50's but a sort of business arrangement.
The fact remains that most young women are going to be ogling over young men - and not men in their 50's. You can talk to me about people in sugar daddy situations, women escaping 3rd world countries, women wanting to be taken care of financially - but the fact remains that those not about physical attraction - which is what the OP is addressing. I'm not saying it's not possible to buy the affections of a younger woman - but it's not always going to be possible to turn the head of one based on appearances alone.
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Sometimes it's not just private arrangements. It's also marriages. When I worked at Dominos Pizza four years ago as an assistant manager, there were two managers. One was in his forties married to a 30-something year old South Korean woman. The other was in his fifties married to a 30-something Filipino woman. No one batted an eye or cared about it. And the women were loyal to them. In fact, the one in his fifties' wife had a full-time job of her own. But he worked long hours since he was the general manager and she constantly got lonely at home. So sometimes she'd work part-time a few hours just to be by his side. Then, after work, she'd make dinner. No American guy can get that kind of loyalty from an American woman at any age.
What makes you think American women aren't loyal? That just sounds bitter.
Those are not women. Those are girls. You're presenting pedophilia as acceptable.
Disgusting.
No, that's not what I was saying. I was implying that a person in Argentina to say older men/younger women relationships is unacceptable is like someone in Italy being disgusted by the sight of people eating pasta. Tasteslikepurple must have a difficult time living in Argentina if he doesn't like older men/younger women relationships cuz it's everywhere in that country.
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That´s gibberish. That´s the kind of "logic" that just can´t be argued with...
I saw that kind of relationship all over Argentina. I'm not hating on it. They just have a more laidback culture down there regarding those things. You can hoot, holler, and openly ogle a woman's breasts in Argentina and she won't file sexual harassment charges.
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What makes you think American women aren't loyal? That just sounds bitter.
This Filipina has a full-time job. She sometimes works part-time at his work just so she can spend time with him. After full-time at her job then part-time with him, she makes his dinner without grumbling. It's virtually impossible to find an American woman who would do the same thing for their man.
I've noticed this now for the past year or so. I'm 6"1' and because I've lifted weights all my life, I have big shoulders and a narrow waist. I also have all my hair, only some of which is gray. But my face is a clear indicator that I'm 50. I used to have a very handsome face, but now maybe it still is .. for a guy my age.
So I notice women who see me from a distance or from the corner of their eye, give me that "look" for the first few seconds. In the past, that look would have turned into a double take or even a stare. But now, they realize their mistake and lose all interest because I'm twice their age.
Same thing if I happen to be at a bar or restaurant where the lighting is dim. I'll get very obvious signals and occasionally have some women initiate contact with me. If I'm in a well-lit place, none of that happens.
The only exception is women around my age or older. With them, I'm a huge hit.
No question here. I just realized today that a part of my life is truly over.
Well at 50 you're well past your prime early-mid 30's years. You'd be shooting for late 30's early 40's women most likely. The 25 year olds are probably off the table.
I'm 60 and have not gotten hit on for several years now. Used to happen. Enjoy the attention you get now, it will soon end all together. Sorry to break this too you, but it is what it is.
I mentioned hookers because the poster I was responding to was talking about hookers. I wasn't being inflammatory - just addressing a specific part of the post.
Look, I would never sleep with someone in exchange for money but if other women want to do it, that's their decision. But once again, having an arrangement with someone like that is not what the OP was talking about. If someone is willing to sleep with you in return for you paying her bills and whatnot - that is not the same as seeing you on the street and checking you out. In fact, I'd say that you are proving my point in that the "nontraditional" scenarios in which you are talking about are not based on the physical attraction that a 20 something year old woman feels for a man in his 50's but a sort of business arrangement.
The fact remains that most young women are going to be ogling over young men - and not men in their 50's. You can talk to me about people in sugar daddy situations, women escaping 3rd world countries, women wanting to be taken care of financially - but the fact remains that those not about physical attraction - which is what the OP is addressing. I'm not saying it's not possible to buy the affections of a younger woman - but it's not always going to be possible to turn the head of one based on appearances alone.
I think you need to ask yourself one important question: where am I going with this post?
You haven't offered the OP any useful advice. I have. He should either learn to deal with his new life and force himself to appreciate the attraction he gets from chicks his age. Or he should go out and get some young hussy where all the rich guys get them. It's that simple.
I'm suspicious that all hundred of this body builders that brag here how they are beautiful, of course always without any photos, are actually losers. Theirs phantasy is confronted by realty ( no women for them ) and hence they look for approval in another phantasy world - forum. What mean “women are checking at him”? Maybe they are bored and look at any one.
This body builders are so empty. They all come with same stories. "I'm huge women check at me all time, you would not believe how I'm good looking". Men if you brag how you are good looking post picture of yourself. Not only you then 101 before you that come with same story. I bet OP do not have any children. Winner do not come here with such stories.
I just love it how someone's thread can easily get hijacked by others...
It doesn't look like You guys even noticed the OP's reply on page 12... you're just going at I with each other. Everybody arguing and trying to score a point against the other person.
How about you guys create your own thread on the subject instead of hijacking someone else's?
No, It's virtually impossible to find an American woman who would do the same thing for their man.
First of all, that is an ignorant statement and too overbroad to be considered. Second, after one has become familiar with a few of those relationships between the older men and their Filipino wives it is pretty easy to see what is really going on...sure the wife is "loyal" to the husband, why shouldn't she be. She has entered into a contract in which she provides services to him, and he takes care of her and her whole family. It's actually quite comical to look at photos of some of these couples. If Big Guy can generalize about American women, Lilac and I can make statements about these old guys and their "purchased" brides...
And as far as the OP goes, I feel sorry for someone who is so focused on their looks that they cannot tolerate the fact that people who are young enough to be their children don't still lust after them. We all age if we're lucky. And frankly, the wonderful traits that many 50+ women acquire are the very things that cause younger men to be interested in them...and I think that threatens older men.
Whoa. I wasn't expecting this! Ok, let me just try and fill in some gaps..
Actually, I'm married and have been for 26 years. I have two sons, one just turned 18, the other is 22. I wasn't looking to date anybody, but I admit that I enjoy the mental fantasy of "what if" when a woman shows interest in me. But as much as I sometimes like how a young 25 something looks, I doubt I would ever want to pursue anything with them even if I were single. I imagine the youngest I could go is 30 and that's really pushing it. Ideally, I love 40 year olds as long as they don't let themselves go. Even some 50+ year olds I met were great.
The initial attention I get from younger girls is flattering, but their dismissal of me immediately after does sting. It's the real indicator that my age is closing doors for me. I'm as strong as I ever wax, I'm no dumber, and I feel no difference in my mind or my body from when I was 25. But I look different. And this means I really will never, for the rest of my days, have a young woman that feels pure lust for me. Does it ultimately matter? No. But still..
But this is all just a mental trip. I love my wife, I'm not looking to cheat now. I didn't before when I had many more opprtunities as a younger man. My post was just an obsetvation, nothing more
If you love your wife and are happily married - why did you even write this post? It's one thing to make an observation - it's another thing to take the time to put it on a public online forum. Like I said, I understand getting older - it's not easy. It's not easy knowing that you aren't as attractive as you once were. But if you have a wife and a family - you should know what's really important.
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I think you need to ask yourself one important question: where am I going with this post?
You haven't offered the OP any useful advice. I have. He should either learn to deal with his new life and force himself to appreciate the attraction he gets from chicks his age. Or he should go out and get some young hussy where all the rich guys get them. It's that simple.
There is no "advice" to give a 50 year old man that wishes hot young women were lusting after him. I sympathized but there is nothing you can do but accept it.
Well at 50 you're well past your prime early-mid 30's years. You'd be shooting for late 30's early 40's women most likely. The 25 year olds are probably off the table.
Two of my nieces are 24. They aren't going to date 50-year-olds. I didn't want to date 50-year-olds in my mid-20s, and none of my friends did, either. We considered men 30 and older to be old, period. No amount of money in the world would have convinced us otherwise, though a few desperate souls tried.
The bottom line is that's just how the vast majority of women in nations where we have access to education and financial independence think. This 20-something/50-something fantasy is just that--a fantasy--for 99% of average joes. Hollywood is irrelevant. Exploitation of dirt-poor women in foreign lands is irrelevant, too, because given their druthers and a choice between a wealthy 25-year-old and a wealthy 50-year-old as an escape route, they'll go for the wealthy 25-year-old unless the guy has a heart condition and they stand to inherit money sooner rather than later. Teenagers who are most likely pimped out in macho patriarchal South American nations are irrelevant, as well, because they are also being exploited. There's a reason for laws concerning statutory rape here, because adolescents are not adults and cannot give consent like adults. Their brains are not fully developed, and that is a physiological fact.
Given freedom, education, and financial independence, most women will not dig men old enough to be their fathers. It's unnatural, because despite what some here like to say about being able to breed, 50-year-olds are just not in the same reproductive league as men closer to a young woman's age, and biology is what it is. And not for nothing, but as I said in another thread, women with any sense of forethought at all don't want to deal with rebellious teenagers, menopause, and an ailing spouse all at the same time.
We all get older. We all get wrinkles. That's life. Don't wait until you're 45-50 to try to have a family, and you won't have to worry about it.
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That´s gibberish. That´s the kind of "logic" that just can´t be argued with...
