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Old 09-10-2013, 04:09 PM
 
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Hear me out.

It's struck me since I graduated college in 2010 and entered the "real world" with "adults" with "different personalities" how men don't seem to have grown up. Like, there's a certain mentality guys in their twenties have, especially how they interact with women, that one would hope men would grow out of in their thirties, but this doesn't seem to be the case.

I'll describe it, but it boils down to this: men need to stop trying to get laid. What I mean is, men are trained from birth to conform to social norms, since we have a tendency to be a boorish and uncouth and unkempt. We have to learn to speak a certain way, act a certain way, look a certain way, because, if we don't, it will be displeasing to women. I don't care if it's your mother, your girlfriend, your wife, your co-worker, or your neighbor. We're trained to not offend women.

This is why some men co-opt that whole "treat women like crap" mentality because it goes against their programming and why so many women tend to fall for it.

The problem is, for the men who don't actively break themselves out of it, this mentality tends to seep into other aspects of men's lives. Ever notice how a lot of men you know (especially guys who are married) only care about sports (and they're genuinely excited about fantasy football), the latest smart phone, and pornography/strip clubs? I get the feeling that men feel like these are the only things they can talk or care about because other things they're not allowed to really have an opinion on.

Some of the same guys who "come to life" when talking about the latest football game and will debate stats for hours, when you ask them about politics, they have some of the simplest, incurious ideas ever. All that brain power they put into analyzing sports, or debating the iPhone vs. the Windows 8 phone, or talking about how hot some chicks fake boobs are...they don't really put it into other things. Other topics and interests.

It seems like men these days simplify their characters down to acceptable "man topics" and "man interests" and leave the rest to women because that's their box, where they're most accepted to be themselves. I think men subconsciously fear seeming too serious or caring too much.

 
Old 09-10-2013, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Viña del Mar, Chile
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Originally Posted by godavs21 View Post
Hear me out.

It's struck me since I graduated college in 2010 and entered the "real world" with "adults" with "different personalities" how men don't seem to have grown up. Like, there's a certain mentality guys in their twenties have, especially how they interact with women, that one would hope men would grow out of in their thirties, but this doesn't seem to be the case.

I'll describe it, but it boils down to this: men need to stop trying to get laid. What I mean is, men are trained from birth to conform to social norms, since we have a tendency to be a boorish and uncouth and unkempt. We have to learn to speak a certain way, act a certain way, look a certain way, because, if we don't, it will be displeasing to women. I don't care if it's your mother, your girlfriend, your wife, your co-worker, or your neighbor. We're trained to not offend women.

This is why some men co-opt that whole "treat women like crap" mentality because it goes against their programming and why so many women tend to fall for it.

The problem is, for the men who don't actively break themselves out of it, this mentality tends to seep into other aspects of men's lives. Ever notice how a lot of men you know (especially guys who are married) only care about sports (and they're genuinely excited about fantasy football), the latest smart phone, and pornography/strip clubs? I get the feeling that men feel like these are the only things they can talk or care about because other things they're not allowed to really have an opinion on.

Some of the same guys who "come to life" when talking about the latest football game and will debate stats for hours, when you ask them about politics, they have some of the simplest, incurious ideas ever. All that brain power they put into analyzing sports, or debating the iPhone vs. the Windows 8 phone, or talking about how hot some chicks fake boobs are...they don't really put it into other things. Other topics and interests.

It seems like men these days simplify their characters down to acceptable "man topics" and "man interests" and leave the rest to women because that's their box, where they're most accepted to be themselves. I think men subconsciously fear seeming too serious or caring too much.
Or you should stop acting like your interests are above other people's.

You sound like a pretentious ass when you talk like that.

Don't even make me laugh about women all the sudden holding these in depth smart conversations. If you want to go by stereotypes, women aren't able to comprehend anything more than what goes on in the celebrity life, and no, women don't know anything about politics either.

No offense, but this is one of the more ridiculous threads I've seen
 
Old 09-10-2013, 04:17 PM
 
Location: palmsprings
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Amen
 
Old 09-10-2013, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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I think your premise is wrong. IMHO, there are a large number of guys who really are primarily interested in sports and boobs. However, I do agree with you that marriage and relationships tend to be emasculating for men, because they fear upsetting the "little woman," and ending up on the couch or worse.
 
Old 09-10-2013, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Davenport, Iowa
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Politics suck, as do generalizations.
 
Old 09-10-2013, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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ridiculous
 
Old 09-10-2013, 04:44 PM
 
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I just be myself at all times.

It's very easily IDed.

Guess what?

It NEVER changes.

Some even joke "stick to the script".

Nah....it's MY LIFE!
 
Old 09-10-2013, 04:47 PM
 
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The OP is really funny when you think how many chicks these days are interested in football.
 
Old 09-10-2013, 04:48 PM
 
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stop trying? why im getting laid right now
 
Old 09-10-2013, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Viña del Mar, Chile
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The OP is really funny when you think how many chicks these days are interested in football.
Yeah, my mom loves football and works in IT hahaha
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