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Old 10-17-2013, 09:31 AM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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Yes.

But at that age, a lot of the top men (in society's view) will have been taken. Namely guys who are handsome and successful.

So, I have seen some women make a concession where they probably wouldn't have earlier.

But the range varies by woman and area.

I agree, with a heavy emphasis on region. Lots of the people that are going to be most successful (in society's views) aren't done, or are just finishing their JD, MBA, Ph.D., etc in their late 20s or early 30s. But yeah, regionality plays a lot into this, dating in Wisconsin or Vermont was completely different than San Francisco or Boston. Not even close to the same experience as far as expectations and experiences for the age bracket.
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Old 10-17-2013, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Katonah, NY
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I agree, with a heavy emphasis on region. Lots of the people that are going to be most successful (in society's views) aren't done, or are just finishing their JD, MBA, Ph.D., etc in their late 20s or early 30s. But yeah, rationality plays a lot into this, dating in Wisconsin or Vermont was completely different than San Francisco or Boston. Not even close to the same experience as far as expectations and experiences for the age bracket.
I lived in NYC - many people are single in their 30's. I was actually one of the first of my friends to get married and I was 28. My husband's friends at that time were all from the South - and they all got married right out of college.
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Old 10-17-2013, 09:38 AM
 
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Old 10-17-2013, 09:51 AM
 
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what's the relevance of womens' personal income in this discussion?
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Old 10-17-2013, 09:52 AM
 
Location: All Over
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I would say yes. Older women seem to realize you sort of have to compromise or at least practice the 80/20 rule, dont throw someone out just b/c you dislike 20% of the relationship or thigns about them when 80% of them is great.

also, most younger guys in that age range these days still live with parents but work so have disposal income to waste on going to bars, eating out, etc.

also younger people tend to be more self absorbed, etc
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Old 10-17-2013, 09:53 AM
 
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what's the relevance of womens' personal income in this discussion?
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Same expectations as in college (wants you to be tall, handsome and socially adept), except now they also expects you to have your own car, pay for their meals, etc.
Money and education were both mentioned by OP.
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Old 10-17-2013, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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Yes, because they're the most desired age. Once they get older, their standards quickly get re-adjusted. Not because they "get more mature." Because reality sets in.

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Old 10-17-2013, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Katonah, NY
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In the last few seconds that I spent thinking about this - I really think that location has a lot to do with how people feel about this. The wife of one of my husband's friends told me once that she was lucky enough to meet her husband in her freshman year of college. They are from the south. I kind of laughed and said that I was glad that I didn't meet my husband during college because we probably wouldn't have ended up together. People on here always like to talk about women's "value" and how it plummets after a set age. I don't agree. I would say that, in different regions, the pressure to settle down happens at different ages. In the south - people are often looking for their future spouse in college. In NYC, for instance, a lot of people don't think about getting serious about settling down until their 30's. To be honest, I don't see this having anything to do with a woman's value or lowered or raised expectations. I see this as having to do with her mindset. And I would say that my girlfriends tolerated a lot less crap from guys when they were in their late 20's and early 30's than they did in their early 20's. Some of you think that women somehow because less valuable after 25 or so - and I guess the way I see it is that a lot of women don't realize their own worth until after 25. Some people like to measure a person's worth by their looks. I think when you get older - you realize that your worth as a person is far more than your outward appearance.
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Old 10-17-2013, 10:05 AM
 
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To whomever posted the income charts:

That is mean income and is never useful in separating income in something so large as groups of men and women.

I'm interested to see the median.
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Old 10-17-2013, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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IMO, bump it up a bit. here's the pattern i see:

20 - 26 is usually still post-college mentality, not ready to settle down, OK with having casual sex with a loser if he looks good

26 - 29 women seem to go through this period of dramatically raised expectations, oftentimes becoming more prudish

30+ if they are unmarried, the expectations begin a downward slide
By the time their 35 and that biological clock is ticking and they're desperate, now its they're just looking for a "nice guy". The "list" goes out the window.
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