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??? How does that work? In my experience, unless there are tons of apartments in the area (big cities), people who earn $15/hr cannot afford to live in high-income areas UNLESS they do not have an ongoing shelter (housing) payment.
Working 70 or so hours a week, someone making $15 an hour and living very frugally with roommates could do it.
It's one thing if you, as the man, want to out earn your partner b/c you believe it's your responsibility to protect and provide (financially) for her and your family together ..I understand, respect, and admire that.
It's another if you want to do so b/c it makes your johnson appear bigger.
My mom makes more than my dad and I know a lot of people who are in a situation in which the woman makes more. Guess what, being "manly" has little to do with how much money you make.
I don't have any interest in supporting someone financially who makes no money and expects to rely on me. My boyfriend makes less than me but he can support himself. That's all I care about. I don't expect him to pay for my stuff either. I can take care of myself.
However, I'd say that a man who does not think he should be able to support his wife--i.e., working as though he could-- is probably not a man any woman really wants. Married life over the long term is not "going dutch."
I really don't understand why the people here have to always attack the traditional way of doing things. You can do things your own way and I will do things my way. It seems like everything old school here is attacked while "progressive" thought is shoved down everyone's throat.
You people love to denigrate men who live by the old code by some how labeling them insecure, threatened, immature, backwards, sexist, and god knows what other nonsense labels get thrown around here. And then on top of it you try to make it seem like society is not thinking on the same levels. The fact of the matter is that a lot of the things accepted on CD are not mainstream in society instead it is looked down upon. For example, we have people here who promote open relationships, cuckolding, and god knows what other nonsense. As soon as someone shows up that doesn't buy this crap they get a mob with pitchforks after them.
This is rather amusing to me, but I feel as though people on here need to be put in their place.
Inequity in any relationship, whether it be financial, time, sexual or other major area will typically lead to some amount of conflict. Like they say most divorces are over financial differences.
People in our society love to underestimate financial stability and survival.
When they say most divorces are over financial differences - I don't think that means differences in income. I have a feeling it is more about differences in handling money - such as spending, saving, investing, etc.
I'm a stay at home mom and before I had our children, I worked here and there. Sometimes I made a lot of money but it was usually a very short contract. We have never had financial issues in our relationship. I'm in charge of our finances but we are in agreement about how much to save, what to spend money on, etc. Even if people earn the exact same amount, if one person is a spender and one person is a saver, they will likely have far greater financial differences than a couple with a huge gap in their salaries.
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I'm just curious.
How much $ do you expect a man you will consider marrying to make? The basic minimum you expect him to make. Let's say mid 30s to early 40s in age, so he should have his career established by then. Let's say the median income geographically, so if you live in San Fransisco, chop a little off, if you live in Florida, move it a little up, etc, etc.
I'm not really interested in hearing why, I know the why. Numbers. Please just answer the poll.
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Just a note.
I don't really care about how much you make or don't and really don't want to hear justification. It's pretty obvious that is going to spiral the thread into doom.
Just answer the poll.
So - you basically started a poll asking women to show you how shallow they are with out trying to justify their shallowness because you already know that they are shallow and why they are shallow? And you don't understand why it's not a "nice" thread? Really?
For the record, if I found myself single right now, I wouldn't marry again unless the man was financially stable. This has no minimum income attached to it - but I have two sons so I would need to make sure that whoever I married was stable and responsible. When I met my husband, I didn't have any idea how much he made. We were both on the same tour together. In the years since we have been together, his salary has surpassed my wildest dreams - but we still aren't rich. I had no idea he would ever make this much and I certainly never had any "minimum" salary requirements. The guy that I was engaged to before was unemployed some of the time that we were together and it was never an issue. Actually, I wanted him to turn down some of the jobs he took to focus on what he said he really wanted to do - because I thought it would make him happier in the long run.
I'm actually surprised at this poll coming from you. I thought we women only cared about looks. I guess now we only care about looks AND money. Funny, I thought it was my husband's spicy sense of humor that got my attention…
So you've married and gotten the golden egg from every guy you've had sex with I assume?
I am confused what you mean the golden egg... can you explain that? But if I recall properly from another thread, I remember Molli saying she waited for marriage for sex. It sticks out to me because I thought it was very admirable of her.
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