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Again, you seem to be missing the point. The issue isn't whether each gender judges the other on looks. Clearly they do. My question to you is why do you need an actual scale?
Bricks seems to be saying that it doesn't matter, it's mostly a semantic argument.
Don't mind me, y'all. I'm just here enjoying the popcorn.
Again, you seem to be missing the point. The issue isn't whether each gender judges the other on looks. Clearly they do. My question to you is why do you need an actual scale? The English language provides an awful lot of words to comment on someone's appearance already.
One thing that's pretty common on this and similar forums is seeing guys who rate women on a 1-10 scale. Now, I can understand rating someone's looks in this way, although even that's kind of silly since we don't all agree on who's attractive and who isn't. But how do you rate the overall person as a 6 versus a 4? I read one post recently where the person said a woman who was a 6 shouldn't be holding for a guy who's an 8 or 9. Again, what does this even mean? I personally don't think of people in terms of whether they're a 5 or a 2 or a 10. I look at the whole person and decide if they have the qualities I'm looking for. IMO, anyone who reduces people down to such simplistic terms probably isn't cut out for dating. For one, they probably don't know how to assign a score to themselves.
Some people find this incredibly shallow, but most of us think about this kind of stuff whether we admit it or not. I think of leagues as 2-3 points away from one another. So, a girl that is a 9, would probably not end up with a 7 or lower. Now if he were with a 6, some other variable would be in the equation like his wealth. As far as women dating more attractive men, I rarely see that. A woman who is a 6 dating a man who is an 8 that is really uncommon. As far as "reducing someone to those terms and not being cut out for dating"...a LOT of people do this. More than you realize. It's natural. And it's only an issue, if it's the only thing you base someone's value off. And naturally men care more about that initial number.
A slightly unattractive guy could grow on a beautiful women. The other way around doesn't usually work.
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And even if they did, they'd probably never be happy with someone because they'd always be looking for a 10
You're generalizing a bit. I know women who are aware of the range they fall into and purposefully avoid that which is unattainable. They are realistic in their pursuits. They know what they can offer and what they should get in return.
Some people find this incredibly shallow, but most of us think about this kind of stuff whether we admit it or not. I think of leagues as 2-3 points away from one another. So, a girl that is a 9, would probably not end up with a 7 or lower. Now if he were with a 6, some other variable would be in the equation like his wealth. As far as women dating more attractive men, I rarely see that. A woman who is a 6 dating a man who is an 8 that is really uncommon. As far as "reducing someone to those terms and not being cut out for dating"...a LOT of people do this. More than you realize. It's natural. And it's only an issue, if it's the only thing you base someone's value off. And naturally men care more about that initial number.
How do you know what most of us think? Have you done a survey? People have a basic idea of who's in their league and who isn't without having to assign an actual number to it. When I see someone I know I have no chance with, I don't have to quantify it by saying she's one point above me or 3 points above me. And you talk about equations where other factors besides looks enter into the picture. Again, share with us this formula.
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You're generalizing a bit. I know women who are aware of the range they fall into and purposefully avoid that which is unattainable. They are realistic in their pursuits. They know what they can offer and what they should get in return.
Do those women think of themselves and men in terms of specific numbers? No.
I have vague categories of "attractive" and "unattractive," sometimes with the qualifier "very." The 10-point scale indicates a silly level of pickiness.
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Admit I haven't read whole thread.
My brain doesn't rate people or things numerically (or with the concept of "leagues").
Not because I'm some awesome person, it's just not a function my mind can make sense of/work with.
With regard to relationship/potential involvement with someone, my brain categorizes as either "no" or "maybe-to-yes".
Of course, other people are going to consider me as being either a "no" or as a "maybe-to-yes", too.
And not everyone will share that assessment, thank goodness for individual variation
But assigning a number seems so absolute & concrete.
I don't usually think a given person flat-out "is" more or less attractive in some objective sense (as if everybody would agree).
I may personally find this or that individual attractive enough for my tastes, but I don't presume to think that other people would share my opinion/reaction.
Not everyone finds the same features attractive, both in terms of the visual/physical as well as interesting/appealing personality traits.
Again, you seem to be missing the point. The issue isn't whether each gender judges the other on looks. Clearly they do. My question to you is why do you need an actual scale? The English language provides an awful lot of words to comment on someone's appearance already.
Who gives a F*CK if someone says "she's decent" or "she's a 6". Both are clearly subjective, both are clearly the other person's opinion and both don't matter.
Should I start a thread getting all offended because if some women call a guy good looking, not all would agree. Therefore no one can be described as good looking because it's all subjective?
This entire thread is stupid, and people clearly do not understand how to just realize not everything has to be spelled out to them.
Who gives a F*CK if someone says "she's decent" or "she's a 6". Both are clearly subjective, both are clearly the other person's opinion and both don't matter.
Should I start a thread getting all offended because if some women call a guy good looking, not all would agree. Therefore no one can be described as good looking because it's all subjective?
This entire thread is stupid, and people clearly do not understand how to just realize not everything has to be spelled out to them.
Oh, I see I hit a nerve.
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