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View Poll Results: Is remaining an adult male virgin weird & wrong
Yes to both 9 7.69%
Yes, Weird 10 8.55%
Yes, Wrong 1 0.85%
No 91 77.78%
Wow 6 5.13%
Voters: 117. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-23-2015, 08:01 AM
 
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Prudish virgin girls don't date anybody. Hot to trot virgin girls avoid virgin guys and focus their attention on hot to trot experienced guys.
No way. The virgin girls I know avoid "hot to trot" guys who sleep around like the plague and desperately seek out the few virgin guys to have a committed, deeply emotional, long term relationship with. They are not looking to "punch their V card" and are looking for someone to settle down with.

 
Old 02-23-2015, 08:08 AM
 
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Women, even virgin women, have a natural disdain for inexperienced men. It boils down to biology. Women want men that other women want. If a man is a virgin, a woman will assume that he doesn't have the social proof among other women to get laid, therefore she sees him as low status.
Where do you come up with stuff like this? Inexperienced men are the unicorn these days that likewise inexperienced women seek for long term emotionally committed relationships to eventually marry and share their mutual first times with. They do not want transient one night stands or so-called “friends with benefits”. Sex is something more and with a deeper emotional meaning to these people than the sleep around crowd who seem to think that anyone not like them is an odd ball.
 
Old 02-23-2015, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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No way. The virgin girls I know avoid "hot to trot" guys who sleep around like the plague and desperately seek out the few virgin guys to have a committed, deeply emotional, long term relationship with. They are not looking to "punch their V card" and are looking for someone to settle down with.
I did say there was two kinds of female virgins right? And when everyone is on the same page like you describe, its a beautiful thing... well, not really, but at least everyone is on the same page...
 
Old 02-23-2015, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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I'm 37 bro. Navy submarines vet. See my profile. Although I don't know why age would have anything to do with it. There are 18 year olds with the responsibility to make decisions about life and death in the military. And 18 year olds vote, in the USA. 18 is the age of consent in the state of California.
Age enters into it because of biology. A healthy 18 year old male can have as much as 1500 nanograms of testosterone per decaliter of blood saying "hit that!" during all his waking (and some of his sleeping) hours. Other guys... not so much. I don't care what you say, you have come to your present emotional position on the issue of sex based on indoctrination AND a biology that is compatible with a sexless existence. It isn't good, it isn't bad, its how you have evolved to be. But don't kid yourself, if you haven't met her by now, you never will. It is statistically impossible not to have met a woman who could work for you since you reached the age of sexual maturity. Impossible. So... you either are incapable of recognizing the kind of woman you would be compatible with or.... it isn't women that you are sexually compatible with and you are incapable or unwilling to consider that alternative.
 
Old 02-23-2015, 11:43 AM
 
Location: "Silicon Valley" (part of San Francisco Bay Area, California, USA)
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Age enters into it because of biology. A healthy 18 year old male can have as much as 1500 nanograms of testosterone per decaliter of blood saying "hit that!" during all his waking (and some of his sleeping) hours. Other guys... not so much.
No I think most of us had a healthy level of testosterone. I did at 21, I'm not sure what it was at 18. But they test that when you're in the military and mine was normal. Sometimes what the body wants is different from what the mind wants, though. Men don't have a decline in testosterone until their 40s at least, usually.

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I don't care what you say, you have come to your present emotional position on the issue of sex based on indoctrination AND a biology that is compatible with a sexless existence.
It's neither. My testosterone is normal for my age according to my doctor at the VA; I have not noticed any decline in my sex drive. And I'm not very religious. I would consider myself a Deist. I do believe there's a God out there, but I don't believe in divine intervention or revelation or life after death. Jesus and Mohammed, peace be upon them, were just great men to me. The Bible and the Koran are just good books. If I were a virgin for religious reasons, I would be waiting for actual marriage, right? But I'm not.

I just want a close friendship that evolves into a relationship. So far, I've only found five people for whom I had romantic feelings as opposed to just sexual lust (I have sexual lust to some degree for 80% of the women I meet). But none of them reciprocated. Hence, still a virgin.

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It isn't good, it isn't bad, its how you have evolved to be. But don't kid yourself, if you haven't met her by now, you never will. It is statistically impossible not to have met a woman who could work for you since you reached the age of sexual maturity. Impossible.
lmao it's not impossible at all. There are several guys in my situation here on this forum.

But again, I have met people for whom I had romantic feelings, they just didn't feel the same way.

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So... you either are incapable of recognizing the kind of woman you would be compatible with or....
Or the feeling of compatibility hasn't been mutual, so far.

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it isn't women that you are sexually compatible with and you are incapable or unwilling to consider that alternative.
No, I do enjoy gay porn (although I prefer lesbian porn), but I've never felt drawn to a man romantically. Whereas I have had obsessive crushes on women and girls. So I'm definitely NOT gay.
 
Old 02-23-2015, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Or the feeling of compatibility hasn't been mutual, so far..
That is because women possess amazing resources of psychic insight. They see you coming a mile off. The only way to confuse their gaydar is to be very wealthy.



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No, I do enjoy gay porn.. .... So I'm definitely NOT gay.
You make this way too easy for me...
 
Old 02-23-2015, 12:45 PM
 
Location: "Silicon Valley" (part of San Francisco Bay Area, California, USA)
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That is because women possess amazing resources of psychic insight. They see you coming a mile off. The only way to confuse their gaydar is to be very wealthy.
Well, I'm not gay, so whatever.
 
Old 02-23-2015, 05:37 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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The Catholic Church is looking for a few good men. They need men for whom the celibacy thing is no big deal. Guys like you, and they are willing to pay you for your Sacrifice of the joys of the flesh for Christ's sake. The Seminary education alone is worth a couple hundred grand. On the House. Free! I've never understood why raging jocks, full of testosterone and manly charm put themselves through the agony of denial and answer The Call, only to fail, miserably and spectacularly, and disgrace themselves, their families and the faith community, when those for whom the whole sex thing is but a minor annoyance become Software Engineers. Just saying.
Celibacy and serving Christ is my main goal. I have given it some thought about the priesthood, I don't know.
 
Old 02-23-2015, 05:45 PM
 
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Celibacy and serving Christ is my main goal. I have given it some thought about the priesthood, I don't know.
Just to be clear, if you got married, you would have sex with your wife, correct?
 
Old 02-23-2015, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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It is quite the trick in 2015, getting married without getting it wet first. I mean... it can be done, but almost no one does it the way it should be done. When you are part of a devout, virginity worshipping culture, the parents run interference for their offspring and set them up with vetted prospects for marriage and/or they can choose for themselves within their church community. The way some virgins do it today... just put themselves out there among the heathen and hope someone takes pity on them and gives them the whole nine yards on a promissory note... well most fail. Miserably. You can Google for America's unwed young mother rate to see just how miserably. Others just keep at it into their 40's and beyond. Hope springs eternal I suppose. When you don't have any good reason for being a virgin... not a Fundamentalist Christian, not a minor, not disabled... when you are just an ordinary person who has decided to be chaste or celibate without the support of a community of like minded people.... it usually does not end well. Just saying.

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