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I honestly think that most posters on this board don't understand how difficult it is for the average guy to date. We have to do a lot of approaching and must experience a lot of rejection to get dates. It's a lot of physical, mental, and emotional work for us. Women don't have to experience this and don't know what it's like.
I was in San Francisco last week and I overheard a woman say "I have an amazing boyfriend, he makes $160,000 he drives a car...". I shook my head at this.
When I tell women my career as an engineer it's not the most exciting thing to them. I encounter a lot of women in my field though.
I make six figures and pay off my cards. Only my ex and my family know my estimated income. I try to not use the money thing too much in dating for fear someone will be into me for my income.
I was in San Francisco last week and I overheard a woman say "I have an amazing boyfriend, he makes $160,000 he drives a car...". I shook my head at this.
When I tell women my career as an engineer it's not the most exciting thing to them. I encounter a lot of women in my field though.
I make six figures and pay off my cards. Only my ex and my family know my estimated income. I try to not use the money thing too much in dating for fear someone will be into me for my income.
I agree and unless you are actually together and splitting the bills etc it's no ones business what someone earns and LOL it would be incredibly rude to ask IMO
I was in San Francisco last week and I overheard a woman say "I have an amazing boyfriend, he makes $160,000 he drives a car...". I shook my head at this.
When I tell women my career as an engineer it's not the most exciting thing to them. I encounter a lot of women in my field though.
I make six figures and pay off my cards. Only my ex and my family know my estimated income. I try to not use the money thing too much in dating for fear someone will be into me for my income.
Lol maybe because San Francisco has the 2nd best public transportation in America Beaten only by Nyc.
So many people can do just fine without a car and do, so having a car is a bigger deal, plus the $160,000 a year prolly gets her panties wet.... sigh.....SMH society needs to be rid of people like that.
I honestly think that most posters on this board don't understand how difficult it is for the average guy to date. We have to do a lot of approaching and must experience a lot of rejection to get dates. It's a lot of physical, mental, and emotional work for us. Women don't have to experience this and don't know what it's like.
I understand what you are saying but in truth it's usually only difficult if one chooses to make it difficult for themselves
Personally I actually think women have a harder time in dating than us blokes mate mainly due to all the bollox they have to put up with
I understand what you are saying but in truth it's usually only difficult if one chooses to make it difficult for themselves
I actually disagree with this in the sense that dating, for men, requires a ton of approaches and rejections. I know because I do it. I don't walk around talking about it, but I approach a lot (and I'm talking about in person, not online...I don't do anything there because I have no success at all). Some women are just nasty at the outset. Others seem interested at the time, but don't respond when I message them. The only ways that I've found to consistently get women to respond is to appeal to something that many of them value: social approval from their peers.
This means that I either need to look like I have money, befriend their friends (so if they are rude to me, they risk social standing with their friends), I have to be extremely fun and outgoing, or I have to be extremely good-looking (not something I could change, unfortunately).
Again, I'm a guy that approaches women very often, through work, social activities that I participate in, and cold approaches during the day. I used to also spend a ton of time at bars and clubs (which I've found to be a terrible place to meet a long-term partner, but a conceptually great place to get laid....again, with a lot of physical effort).
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Personally I actually think women have a harder time in dating than us blokes mate mainly due to all the bollox they have to put up with
I don't know, man. I'd love to be the selector and just sit around waiting for someone to come to me.
In any event, I couldn't even imagine being OP. At least, I'm in a position and have the personality type to approach. Couldn't conceive being an introvert in this kind of dating environment.
I actually disagree with this in the sense that dating, for men, requires a ton of approaches and rejections. I know because I do it. I don't walk around talking about it, but I approach a lot (and I'm talking about in person, not online...I don't do anything there because I have no success at all). Some women are just nasty at the outset. Others seem interested at the time, but don't respond when I message them. The only ways that I've found to consistently get women to respond is to appeal to something that many of them value: social approval from their peers.
This means that I either need to look like I have money, befriend their friends (so if they are rude to me, they risk social standing with their friends), I have to be extremely fun and outgoing, or I have to be extremely good-looking (not something I could change, unfortunately).
Again, I'm a guy that approaches women very often, through work, social activities that I participate in, and cold approaches during the day. I used to also spend a ton of time at bars and clubs (which I've found to be a terrible place to meet a long-term partner, but a conceptually great place to get laid....again, with a lot of physical effort).
I don't know, man. I'd love to be the selector and just sit around waiting for someone to come to me.
In any event, I couldn't even imagine being OP. At least, I'm in a position and have the personality type to approach. Couldn't conceive being an introvert in this kind of dating environment.
It is horses for courses for different blokes and believe me I DO understand
When I say it's their choice if it's difficult or not I mean mainly in their actions when approaching....... I think most of the men that struggle with dating ( the ones that actually bother to approach ) is mainly down to them not thinking out things proper, not reading situations clearly or above all else not respecting the time and place and choosing an unfortunate time for her ( doing something, busy at work, etc etc ).
And of course what the men say is the most important thing ..... Just that they believe it to be charming or romantic and so on it doesn't for one second mean a lady will
That's why I genuinely do believe it's mainly down to a blokes choices that makes it difficult or not
The group approval thing doe happen and to be honest there is nothing more that I LOVE than meeting a lady with her friends on a night out and having a laugh and a good time with them as a group ...... Honestly that's one my best characteristics and am at complete ease when talking to a group
Even average looking blokes fair well with the ladies as long as they have the personality and wit about them ( this I've proved many times )
Personally I think you are well alright mate from what I've seen with you on here and like you say at least you do something about it and try your luck
I honestly think that most posters on this board don't understand how difficult it is for the average guy to date. We have to do a lot of approaching and must experience a lot of rejection to get dates. It's a lot of physical, mental, and emotional work for us. Women don't have to experience this and don't know what it's like.
I agree, I've always thought dating (initial stages) is much more difficult for men, and I feel for you all.
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