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Location: Huntersville/Charlotte, NC and Washington, DC
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Originally Posted by clarksvillemom
I think it's ridiculous. Men and women can be friends. It's like the Duggar kids who apparantly call out code names to the boys to avert their eyes if a pretty girl comes into view. Can't stand stupid stuff like this. I would be insulted if my husband even suggested he or I do this.
I can't climb aboard this train of thought, as someone who has a female best friend. To me there is a difference between noticing a good looking woman and being alone with a woman with no accountability around. Pence probably wouldn't cheat but I have no issue with him not even wanting to entertain that temptation.
I was thinking about "dinner" in more professional terms. Having dinner with a colleague, particularly when travelling, is not unheard of. Declining business dinners because someone else might be having wine with their meal is equally strange.
If he's talking about a work environment, you can't blame him. Why risk being accused of harassment? I realize it's very uncommon, but it just takes one alleged incident to destroy a career. I take precautions, seems only prudent. In my office, in a one on one meeting the door stays open if at all possible, man or woman (though it's because of a woman to be candid). If I needed to meet with a woman offsite, I have others along more often than not. When that's not possible, we meet in the most innocent, open, public places possible.
You may say but you know Alice, and she would never falsely allege anything. True enough, but in today's world, we can't agree to meet privately with Alice unless we're willing to meet privately with anyone - including someone we don't know well enough to trust. We can't pick and choose anymore. And even a great trusting work relationship can go sour over time.
It's just self preservation, why take unnecessary chances? The world is much different now than it was two generations ago, mostly for the better, but some conventions have changed as a result.
I'd call it a sign of the times, more than "weird."
I can't climb aboard this train of thought, as someone who has a female best friend. To me there is a difference between noticing a good looking woman and being alone with a woman with no accountability around. Pence probably wouldn't cheat but I have no issue with him not even wanting to entertain that temptation.
Sure, but the most likely scenario that he'd be having dinner with a woman would be professional and political, which should not be a problem. Men and women can work together without any kind of romantic or sexual situation being an issue. We do it every single day. He's either saying that he couldn't control himself around a woman or that women in general couldn't control themselves around him, which is, in fact, a weird thing to believe.
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Originally Posted by Cantabridgienne
I was thinking about "dinner" in more professional terms. Having dinner with a colleague, particularly when travelling, is not unheard of. Declining business dinners because someone else might be having wine with their meal is equally strange.
I know a lot more women who live by this rule then men. Personally, I dont think its a bad rule. Even when there is trust some events can turn into "one thing led to another" kind of business.. In theory..
If he's talking about a work environment, you can't blame him. Why risk being accused of harassment? I realize it's very uncommon, but it just takes one alleged incident to destroy a career. I take precautions, seems only prudent. In my office, in a one on one meeting the door stays open if at all possible, man or woman (though it's because of a woman to be candid). If I needed to meet with a woman offsite, I have others along more often than not. When that's not possible, we meet in the most innocent, open, public places possible.
A man could also accuse you of harassment. Why is this a gender thing? Use your brains, people.
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