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I've been guilty of doing so occasionally when out with some male friends who I suspect or know have other ideas in mind. I've done it for 2 reasons - it hasn't been technically a "date" and I didn't want to leave any trace of hope it might ever be. Shouldn't have, though. They've graciously offered and I should've graciously accepted.
and women spend a lot more on looking good for their dates than the men do, and you know that men want to be with the hottest looking woman they can get for trophy value.
After taking 2 - 2-1/2 hours to just get READY for a date, wasting my makeup on a guy who turns out to be a ******, shaving my legs, wasting my hair spray, perfume and all of the other stuff that makes men visually happy. . . giving the time and energy into putting myself together PLUS maybe buying something a little new for the date. . .
Yep - if he is not working out for me AND turns into a jerk, he is paying. Makes me feel better about getting all pretty for nothing.
If he does not turn into a jerk, I will consider paying half and will offer.
I have done both of the above. Depends on the guy.
Let's say a woman is on a first or second date with a guy, and she knows she doesn't want to see him again. Is she obligated to offer or insist on paying (her share at least)?
Like I said in another thread, I have a guy friend who takes the gesture of a woman offering to pay (within first three dates) as disinterest and he doesn't ask her out again. He goes so far to say that it's a woman's obligation to pay (or offer to pay) if she knows she's not interested in another date. Otherwise, she's taking advantage of the guy.
Well this just seems a bit odd to me. I've never equated my "interest" in the guy as being related to who pays. I really still see no relation there.
If I wasn't interested, I wouldn't have gone out with him in the first place. And if the guy is the one doing the asking, then yeah...he's paying.
Do not clump all of us together with the nutso radical feminists.
No kidding.
Neo nazi feminists are, I think, the exception here - not the rule. I could be wrong, but still, such assumptions are really unfair to those of us that like to put on our sexy dresses, CFM heels, and do everything we can to look smokin' hot for our men.
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I find it so hard to believe that chivalry is so beaten down that some people have to complain about a couple extra dinner dollars from a woman they most likely asked out to begin with. My view on it is that if you cannot afford dinner, do not take a date to dinner. If $20-40 on my end for dinner is going to break a man, that is not the man for me. Makes me think I will bankrupt the cheapskate by the 5th date. Oh yeah, that is the man I would want to build a life with and eventually support. Not.
My view on it is that if you cannot afford dinner, do not take a date to dinner.
That's the thing... if you do it a few times a month it's not gonna break anybody's bank. IMO the complainers must be those who want to be out every night with different women and waste their time as they're not really interested enough in them to begin with and pray just for good "date"/score ratio in the meantime.
Anyway, we're digressing as this wasn't Kardoulamou's original point.
Well this just seems a bit odd to me. I've never equated my "interest" in the guy as being related to who pays. I really still see no relation there.
If I wasn't interested, I wouldn't have gone out with him in the first place. And if the guy is the one doing the asking, then yeah...he's paying.
Point taken, but the assumption here is that you were interested enough to go out with him, but things said/done on the date made you lose interest.
I'm still scratching my head at my friend's viewpoint. Most guys (on and off this board) think positively of a woman offering to pay; however, my friend views it as a sign that she's not interested. And yet, he is of the opinion that most women are...shall we say...money-grubbing?
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I really still see no relation there.
/score ratio in the meantime.
