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And you don't have to buy drinks to invite others to meet for coffee or breakfast right after the bar closes. The drinks are just to get noticed and by not making a single move after that, it just adds some curiousity because women often expect that guys buying drinks will immediately hit on them.
The other reason for suggesting a public place right after, many girls will not really take phone calls the next day from a guy they only met at some bar. Many don't want to give their number out to guys they only saw but don't know. They certainly won't go alone with you somewhere, not to walk or talk in some isolated place. They often pledge they go together and they leave together, coffee somewhere still allows for that, plus it allows for time to talk and know better if you even want to call them later.
A lot of women are in the same boat, they want to meet someone for a possible relationship. Most don't want just a one-night stand, they don't want to be seen as some easily picked up bar fly. They have to worry about safety, they don't want pressure put on them.
Number one, you've just admitted that you have no control over yourself and that you only want women to be a resevior to your organ.
That must be hard for you to grasp the fact that you really are a creep that many women always look out and guard themselves from. Do you really expect me to believe that all men can't control their sex drive? Or you're just saying that it's just you, huh?
Number two, no one put a gun to your head telling you to be by your lonesome, it was your poor communication and social skills that you're still "without physical affection for so long."
The reason why you are a loser is that you keep telling yourself that you are one and kept identifying yourself as a loser because you still couldn't get in between a pair of legs.
I told you you w/couldn't understand, and that being such, you have absolutely no right to insult me.
Call me a "creep" if you want, but I've known lots and lots of good, honest, "non-creeps" who used to be happy, well-adjusted guys who're now suffering from depression, anger issues, and alcohol/drug/gambling problems because they were never good around girls.
So yes, I do expect you to believe that ALL MEN feel the same way; as ILikeSmartHippies said, most guys are just too ashamed to admit it, especially to a woman.
Seriously. Learn to dance. Take classes. Not only will you get an additional tool to use in the clubs, you'll meet a lot of girls at the dance studio. You will most likely find that meeting girls at the dance studio is much easier. You HAVE to interract with them. Their guard is down. The studio is a safe environment, not a meat market, and the girls really get to know you.
Dancing is the best ice-breaker in the world. It doesn't mean much to dance with someone, so the pressure isn't too much. You get one on one time with the person. And you interact with them on a physical level. You can tell a lot about someone by the way they dance, even if you don't talk.
And of course being a good dancer is a huge turn on for a girl. Don't underestimate dancing.
I thought about dance classes and tried 3 out (2 professional ones and 1 out of my university) a little over a year ago, but 1 was filled with mostly guys who had also heard that dance classes were good places to good women. There weren't enough girls for the guys, so many girls would have to be shared some of guys had to stand out.
The other 2 mostly taught interpretive dance to high school girls; no thank you and no thank you.
Also, I don't know how much good learning to actually, really dance would do me in the club-scene; most of what people call dancing is grabbing eachother's asses and dry-humping while standing nowadays.
And you don't have to buy drinks to invite others to meet for coffee or breakfast right after the bar closes. The drinks are just to get noticed and by not making a single move after that, it just adds some curiousity because women often expect that guys buying drinks will immediately hit on them.
The only time I would ever, ever buy a girl a drink in a bar is if we had already chatted for a while (atleast 15-20 minutes), were really hitting it off, agreed that we would meet again and I would buy drinks to toast on it.
But I'm sorry, I'm not going to gamble my money by buying drinks as an attention-getter.
Please tell me, how many guys have bought drinks for you before?
How many of them did you actually build a relationship with (and by a relationship, I mean a long-term-relationship, friends-with-benefits or just one night)?
The bar scene can be dog eat dog. You have to be bigger than life, express high fashion, pose like your all that and a bottle of viagra, and understand that the crowd alternates every other weekend. Sometimes it has a real rough crowd other times the crowd is a lot nicer. Depends on the mood and if people are drunk or high.
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The only time I would ever, ever buy a girl a drink in a bar is if we had already chatted for a while (atleast 15-20 minutes), were really hitting it off, agreed that we would meet again and I would buy drinks to toast on it.
But I'm sorry, I'm not going to gamble my money by buying drinks as an attention-getter.
Please tell me, how many guys have bought drinks for you before?
How many of them did you actually build a relationship with (and by a relationship, I mean a long-term-relationship, friends-with-benefits or just one night)?
I thought about dance classes and tried 3 out (2 professional ones and 1 out of my university) a little over a year ago, but 1 was filled with mostly guys who had also heard that dance classes were good places to good women. There weren't enough girls for the guys, so many girls would have to be shared some of guys had to stand out.
You need to try another studio. You know...you give up way too damn easy. That's part of your problem. As far as the dancing, the studios we go to ALWAYS have more women than men...not twice as many, but there are definitely not as many men. Look up a few online, NOT at the university. And go.
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Also, I don't know how much good learning to actually, really dance would do me in the club-scene; most of what people call dancing is grabbing eachother's asses and dry-humping while standing nowadays..
Hellooo?? That's exactly why you should learn "real" dancing. You will have a huge advantage over the other guys that are out there wriggling like salted slugs.
He could learn to dance like Pee Wee Herman. That would be a huge turn on. Huge........or he could be like the gay men I see in dance clubs that dance in their underwear and shake their balls all over the place like as if they were maracas or some ethnic musical instrument <gag> j/k
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Hellooo?? That's exactly why you should learn "real" dancing. You will have a huge advantage over the other guys that are out there wriggling like salted slugs.
He could learn to dance like Pee Wee Herman. That would be a huge turn on. Huge........or he could be like the gay men I see in dance clubs that dance in their underwear and shake their balls all over the place like as if they were maracas or some ethnic musical instrument <gag> j/k
You know, my son is only 16 and he had this figured out 2 years ago. We've take many lessons together, and he has been invited to every single prom and ring dance at school since then - because the girls know he can dance, and that he enjoys it as well. He has to turn them DOWN because I'll only let him go to one a year. (Darn tuxes are expensive!!!)
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Do you really expect me to believe that all men can't control their sex drive? Or you're just saying that it's just you, huh?
That's part of your problem. As far as the dancing, the studios we go to ALWAYS have more women than men...not twice as many, but there are definitely not as many men. Look up a few online, NOT at the university. And go.
