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Men pretend they don't do these things, but there are men who are just like the women they say are catty and competitive.
True. I've heard men say dumb little things, about other men, along the lines of, "yeah women always go for that type, ..." That's being competitive and mean. Putting down another dude, because of his style of dress, nice hair, height, fit body, etc. Men just don't realize they're doing it.
Surround yourself with secure people who don't have anything they feel they have to prove to anybody, and you eliminate the majority of the petty, catty, competitive BS. A world of drama can be avoided by simply being choosy enough to spend your time with people who have their heads on straight.
And this applies to men as well...
It is VERY liberating to simply cut off people whose habits, attitudes, values, actions, words, etc. reflect a pattern of toxicity. I don't care about history, shared memories, etc. It may not feel good at first, but the long-term is important.
I'm not one to show "compassion" just because I share a past with somebody. If his/her antics are too much, regardless of gender, goodbye.
That may be true, but in the long run, I don't think segregating the sexes is the best way to achieve legal, social and political equality, or professional parity. Most of the tension is a result of social conditioning. If girls weren't indoctrinated from the youngest age that they have to self-validate by marrying and reproducing, that would help a great deal. And if boys weren't indoctrinated from the youngest age that their worth as men is measured by how many women they've laid, that would help too.
Excellent observation. Unfortunately, this is the only rep I can give you.
True. I've heard men say dumb little things, about other men, along the lines of, "yeah women always go for that type, ..." That's being competitive and mean. Putting down another dude, because of his style of dress, nice hair, height, fit body, etc. Men just don't realize they're doing it.
Indeed. Why do so many straight men worry whether this or that article of clothing, or sunglasses, or haircut make them look "gay"? Because it's customary for mediocre-looking men to mock attractive ones (and most attractive people are so because they take care of their appearance) as "gay" -- the reality being that even in our enlightened age, this is still an insult. "Real men" don't have washboard abs, don't use cologne, don't wear pastels -- in reality, this is just the way so-called "real men" apply social pressure and tarnish the reputation of those more attractive and elegant than they are. Except, I don't think that "men just don't realize they're doing it" -- it's just that men enjoy the license to do many things without judgment, that women do not.
Indeed. Why do so many straight men worry whether this or that article of clothing, or sunglasses, or haircut make them look "gay"? Because it's customary for mediocre-looking men to mock attractive ones (and most attractive people are so because they take care of their appearance) as "gay" -- the reality being that even in our enlightened age, this is still an insult. "Real men" don't have washboard abs, don't use cologne, don't wear pastels -- in reality, this is just the way so-called "real men" apply social pressure and tarnish the reputation of those more attractive and elegant than they are. Except, I don't think that "men just don't realize they're doing it" -- it's just that men enjoy the license to do many things without judgment, that women do not.
God, here we go again. Seriously, more generalizations? Into the "whatever" bin with thee.
God, here we go again. Seriously, more generalizations? Into the "whatever" bin with thee.
Assuming you've read the article cited in the OP, I find it curious that you are complaining about "generalizations" now. As you may remember from reading the article, "b/tch" -- or some variation of it -- was the most common word used. It was awash in generalizations, yet it didn't seem to bother you. Treating generalizations as acceptable to describe women (negatively, of course), yet complaining of unfairness when statements are made about men; requiring women to tiptoe around disputing the most outrageous canards against them, while accepting those canards as gospel on the flimsiest of bases -- these are just garden-variety manifestations of the male privilege. Things are much better than they used to be, but the double standard is still very much alive in this society. What's good for the goose is good for the gander, I say. If you don't like it when the shoe is on the other foot -- tough.
Your foot, not mine. So the article's author, or OP's opinion of having one rationalizes you using one. Ok, good to go.
No, it's more of a reflection on where you stand with respect to generalizations. You don't have a problem with the article's generalizations -- correct?
I also dispute your understanding of what a "generalization" is. Making a statement about society's perception of certain conduct and actors does not generalize the extent to which people actually engage in that conduct. For example, it's more socially acceptable for men to disagree and argue. Nothing in that statement implies that men argue more than women, or that women don't argue, or whatever -- it merely conveys that such conduct is more socially acceptable in men. And is it not? How often do men get called "b/tchy", "catty", "hysterical" or "irrational" for disputing a statement made about them? But check out the comment section to that article -- those words get hurled at women all the time for having the temerity to suggest that they aren't "b/tches".
No, it's more of a reflection on where you stand with respect to generalizations. You don't have a problem with the article's generalizations -- correct?
I don't even recall what the OP posted anymore, I took it as it came before, made a couple of comments on pages that I noted, replied, engaged in conversation, which you ignored for a tirade that lasted 6+ pages, so your just going at it to pick a new fight by the look of it, but I'm probably not ok with his sweeping ones either.
And I'm now out of work for the day, so lob a few at me for later tonight if you wish.
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