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LOL...............now that's funny. NO ONE is self made. NO ONE!
Everyone that has had a little success not a lot but a little, is successful because SOMEONE ELSE took a chance on that person. You cannot make yourself successful.
If you were promoted at work.....SOMEONE ELSE promoted you. You don't promote yourself.
If you started a business and it became successful......SOMEONE ELSE bought your product/service. You did not buy your own products and services.
If you bought a successful business....SOMEONE ELSE took a chance and invested in or loaned you the money to do it.
If you ran for political office and won........SOMEONE ELSE voted for you.
NO ONE makes themselves successful!....
Maybe the guy worked hard, but he's not self made. No one is.
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Originally Posted by crossing over
... but myself
I went on a date once with this guy who told me how he built his career from scratch and that he's come a long way from the boy he used to be etc etc.
That was good, I thought to myself. Then he went on to say how, because he is a self made man, he does not have to respect anyone but himself, because he neither owes anything to anyone nor does he want to give anything to anyone. And that life is just great when you do your own thing and you don't have to care for anyone.
He was in his 40s and going on this date with me, apparently looking to fill SOME gap in his life, although his speech was along the lines of "I have everything, I don't need anything else or anyone".
I never went on a 2nd date, although he kept insisting for a long wile. I still think about his speech though every now and then and shrug my shoulders - how would you people interpret the "I don't have to respect anyone else" theory ?
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I think if you truly do know how to and do respect yourself, you're more likely to show that same respect to others. I don't mean kiss some jerk's a-- just for the sake of being respectful, I mean people who haven't done anything to not deserve your respect. I'm the type who will show respect until they prove they don't deserve it--not the type who feels a person has to earn it first. No one owes me anything.
The lesson to this person: Unless you get to know better from experience with someone, treat everyone with a basic level of respect, or you will never deserve any yourself. "Innocent until proven guilty" type of thing I guess. People who don't respect others they see or interact with around them, not even respecting their existance and freedom don't really like themselves, or at least their inner selves, and they have a big ego and self made "image/identity" of themselves, which they believe is the person they are and must maintain and which everybody else sees.
I think he's been hurt and uses this rant as a security blanket.
Oh yea, he needs someone to take his BS talk and nurture him back to good mental health, my azz. At his age he needs to suck it up and move on, not go on like a baby who has lost their favorite blanket.
Men who are fixer uppers are NOT worth the time and trouble. This security blanket is more then likely a way to let you know all he wants is to sleep with you and not to expect a commitment or some other manipulation.
Thing is, I can sympathize. I'm 31, and have worked full time since I was 14. I finished high school, and then college. I now have a house, 6 acres, and peace of mind. I've worked my assets off for all of things.. But never once have I ever thought that. I've been stepped on, humiliated, cheated, lied to, whatever - but I can promise you that I didn't get here by not respecting people. In fact, nobody'd be where they are if it wasn't for other people. I respect the people that I do work for, I respect the people who read what I write, and yes, I respect those people that have lost the contracts that I've got.
When someone says something like that to me I just shake my head. I know that, when old age sets in, I'll be the one who's lead a good life.. They will be the ones sitting around looking at all their pretty petty little things and asking, "Where is everyone?"
I hate to say it but my Mom is like this and she can't understand why she can't get a relationship going. She's fine with the first few dates and then it goes awry. She talks about how much respect they have to show her and the effort she expects them to put in--and then will ignore their phone calls if she "doesn't feel like" talking to them! She feels it's a chore to have to call back unless she feels super excited to! And these are good guys not scrubs! Foolish.
In her defense she's been screwed over but...terrible attitude. You're not missing a thing with that type!
That's right! no one made it big in any way completely by themselves, alone...someone has to give you the opportunity to work, customers have to give you business, people have to watch your program, listen to your songs, ....whatever the case..we're not islands. Of course you can take credit for all your hard work and be proud of it but that's different than saying I take sole credit for my success.
Urbanblasphemy, you sound older (that's a compliment)
He's right, in some ways. Self-respect is a good thing to have. And not everyone merits our respect, respect is earned.
But shouldn't we still give everyone a certain amount of respect until we decide for ourselves just how much respect they should get from us? We don't exactly have to be rude to others either.
By showing respect to others it dignifies ones self. While you can do much yourself no man is an island. while he may wish to espouse his merits It took others to put him where he was... The first person that hired him and gave him a chance, the person that mentored him, the person that trained him, or take it back a little further his parents for giving him life... I'd like to see him accomplish that one alone. Respect isn't his issue humility, compassion, gratitude and arrogance are.
what a terrible speech to have to listen to.
i like to hear people i like to listen but that person did not sound very pleasant.
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She feels it's a chore to have to call back unless she feels super excited to! 
And these are good guys not scrubs! Foolish.
