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Old 06-29-2010, 03:15 PM
 
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Yes, it does...

No it don't, the point stands that if it means what you say it means then Gods word returns void.

You are likely a troll that is trying to show the bible contradicting itself so your argument in that point is pretty good, but false nevertheless.
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Old 06-29-2010, 03:15 PM
 
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I don't care what he's using he is not being sarcastic . He is at the very least saying to those who opposed him "the scriptures say ye are gods , so why do you have a problem with me saying i am God's son" , He also said the scriptures cannot be broken.

34Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are gods'[e]? 35If he called them 'gods,' to whom the word of God came—and the Scripture cannot be broken— 36what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, 'I am God's Son'? 37Do not believe me unless I do what my Father does. 38But if I do it, even though you do not believe me, believe the miracles, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father." 39Again they tried to seize him, but he escaped their grasp.

You cany deny it all you want the scriptures say we are all His offspring.
Maybe offspring...but not children...
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Old 06-29-2010, 03:17 PM
 
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You accuse others of being dim and not reading full passages of scriptures , i suggest you go back and read it again . After He said ye are gods , He followed it up with the scriptures cannot be broken.

It would be a good lesson learnt by you if you understood that the scriptures actually testify of Jesus , and not calvinism.
But He said YOUR law says....
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Old 06-29-2010, 03:22 PM
 
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No it don't, the point stands that if it means what you say it means then Gods word returns void.

You are likely a troll that is trying to show the bible contradicting itself so your argument in that point is pretty good, but false nevertheless.
His word does not return void...it either convicts or condemns...It either convicts a sinner of his lost state or condemns him so he has no excuse...
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Old 06-29-2010, 03:31 PM
 
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His word does not return void...it either convicts or condemns...It either convicts a sinner of his lost state or condemns him so he has no excuse...


Again you contradict the meaning.

However you want to waller around in wording if God desires to save all mankind and all mankind is not saved, then Gods word returned void.
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Old 06-29-2010, 03:34 PM
 
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His word does not return void...it either convicts or condemns...It either convicts a sinner of his lost state or condemns him so he has no excuse...
If Jesus is the word and Jesus said i have not come to condemn the world , which bible are you reading from .

Or is it "The bad news according to Calvinism", you are quoting from ?.
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Old 06-29-2010, 06:22 PM
 
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you cany deny it all you want the scriptures say we are all his offspring.
yes..the believer is.
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Old 06-29-2010, 06:33 PM
 
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yes..the believer is.
So when Paul said "MEN OF ATHENS" , who had never heard the gospel before ,to whom Paul said "since we are all His offspring" these guys were believers ?are you serious ?.

I love the fact that Paul said this to the Men of Athens , just to hear we are his offspring is music to the ear and good news , then to be told that He loved us while we were yet sinners is joy unspeakable . The jews of the day would have hated Paul for saying "since we are all His offspring" to whom they considered unclean folk , even some jewish believers including Peter held this view for a time , and it's no different today orthodox christianity hates the fact that God loves sinners , even in their sin.



Why do you want to keep moving the goal posts ?

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Old 06-29-2010, 07:52 PM
 
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Again you contradict the meaning.

However you want to waller around in wording if God desires to save all mankind and all mankind is not saved, then Gods word returned void.
I do not contradict the meaning...you just have a dim understanding...
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Old 06-29-2010, 08:02 PM
 
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If Jesus is the word and Jesus said i have not come to condemn the world , which bible are you reading from .

Or is it "The bad news according to Calvinism", you are quoting from ?.
The bible is black and white...you either believe it or you don't, and you go about piecing together verses in order to support your belief...
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