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View Poll Results: Do you believe in evolution?
Yes 112 78.87%
No 30 21.13%
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Old 07-26-2010, 04:58 AM
 
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Sure.
I'm a big fan of reality.

 
Old 07-26-2010, 05:26 AM
 
Location: Florida
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if evolution is fact, why are we devolving as a species? if god is fact, why is there no spiritual unity? evolution makes about as much sense as god creating the earth in 6 days. last i checked, it was still a theory that has yet to be proven. heres a funny little question though, why was the bible correct about the shape of the earth at Isaiah 40:22 thousands of years before columbus sailed the ocean blue?
Can a flat disc be circular?
 
Old 07-26-2010, 05:56 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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iheres a funny little question though, why was the bible correct about the shape of the earth at Isaiah 40:22 thousands of years before columbus sailed the ocean blue?
Quite simple evo....it wasn't. The Bible describes the Earth as a "circle". A circle has two flat sides. The shape of the Earth is spherical.
 
Old 07-26-2010, 08:26 AM
 
Location: PA
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Oh yes they will. I am a prophet.

"Just because it was done in a laboratory, that doesn't mean it actually was how life got started."
If life is ever created in a laboratory by scientist, all that will prove is that it takes intelligence to create life under very controlled conditions.
 
Old 07-26-2010, 08:27 AM
 
Location: PA
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Can a flat disc be circular?
Yes and a sphere can be circular!
 
Old 07-26-2010, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Yes and a sphere can be circular!
Good grief!
 
Old 07-26-2010, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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If life is ever created in a laboratory by scientist, all that will prove is that it takes intelligence to create life under very controlled conditions.
I see you are getting your excuses ready, because science is getting close to doing just that.

One more proof of evolution...Science has reverse engineered a mouse back 500 million years...

BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | Evolution reversed in mice
 
Old 07-26-2010, 09:25 AM
 
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. . . why was the bible correct about the shape of the earth at Isaiah 40:22 thousands of years before columbus sailed the ocean blue?
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Can a flat disc be circular?
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Yes and a sphere can be circular!
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Good grief!
Before we get too frustrated . . . it should be noted that our current understanding of Euclidean geometry was unknown at the time of Isaiah. He lived (800's BC) about 500 years prior to Euclid (300's BC). So the nuances being nitpicked here are not quite that clear cut, Sanspeur.
 
Old 07-26-2010, 09:41 AM
 
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Human evolution (darwinism) is not 100% correct IMHO.
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While the debate remains unsettled, evidence from sequencing mitochondrial DNA indicates that no significant gene flow occurred between H. neanderthalensis and H. sapiens, and, therefore, the two were separate species that shared a common ancestor about 660,000 years ago.[32][33] In 1997, Mark Stoneking stated: "These results [based on mitochondrial DNA extracted from Neanderthal bone] indicate that Neanderthals did not contribute mitochondrial DNA to modern humans… Neanderthals are not our ancestors." Subsequent investigation of a second source of Neanderthal DNA supported these findings.[34] However, a recent development in 2010 indicates that Neanderthal did indeed interbreed with Homo Sapiens at circa 75,000 BC to create modern humans (after homo sapiens moved out from Africa, but before they separated into Europe, the Middle East, and Asia). All modern human DNA is between 1% and 4% Neanderthal. (To appreciate how big of a percentage this is, consider that humans and chimps only differ in 1.5% of their DNA.) This 1-4% DNA from Neanderthals results in larger cerebral cortex and a range of abilities associated with higher intelligence. Interestingly, this 1-4% bit of DNA is only present in non-african humans.
Human evolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As controversial as this quote is for some, it is pretty much the truth. Not only are we a different species from pre-humans, to an extent we are a slightly different species to each other (Whites, Blacks, Asians, etc). There is very strong evidence of this in our DNA that many geneticists are too scared (for reasons of race relations) to admit.

I'd say that Darwin was "half right" at best when it comes to human evolution.
 
Old 07-26-2010, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Richland, Washington
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Human evolution (darwinism) is not 100% correct IMHO.

Human evolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As controversial as this quote is for some, it is pretty much the truth. Not only are we a different species from pre-humans, to an extent we are a slightly different species to each other (Whites, Blacks, Asians, etc). There is very strong evidence of this in our DNA that many geneticists are too scared (for reasons of race relations) to admit.

I'd say that Darwin was "half right" at best when it comes to human evolution.
I don't see where you're getting the weird idea that this discredits darwinian evolution. Here's a full article on the findings:

Neanderthal DNA Found In Human DNA: Human Ancestors Mated With Extinct Species, Researchers Say

All the findings say is that non Africans have traces of neanderthal DNA. Paabo even agrees that his findings don't mean that only non africans have some caveman biology. Also, it doesn't mean we are a slightly different species. That's like saying an antwerp pigeon is a slightly different species than a rock pigeon. Some people may try and present the data in a racist perspective, but the findings don't cause problems with race relations and there are even geneticists and anthropologists that have welcomed the findings. All this proves is that humans in Europe and Asia mated with neanderthals. That neither discredits evolution by natural selection nor does it prove non africans are a slightly different species. The principles are still proven to completely accurate and you seem to ignore the fact that it says neanderthals have the same common ancestor as humans. You seem to just be searching for anything contrary to what you think biological evolution is then say it is discredited. None of your claims do anything to poke holes in the 'theory.'

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