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Old 08-04-2010, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Prattville, Alabama
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BOO HOO!! My mommy made me go to church when I was little and that's why I hate religion and God now!! That's the Atheist story. Paaaaaaaaaaaaathetic!!! Grow up!!! Christians are doing their job as missionaries and I don't see you Atheist doing crap. Not a single thing. Your not doing anything Arequipa! Your not doing anything but sitting on your computer. Don't you dare try to link yourself with people who are actually doing something. Because your not! You know what I'm doing and what my family has been doing?! My family has been on many MANY missionaries to our native Haiti and Africa donating and doing all we could for the children there. Spreading the word of God of course!! We're there because of God!! We have sponsored children over the years from other countries WHILE adopting children here in the U.S. My mom has had many foster children come through our home! Unfortunately, many couldn't stay because their parents got their lives back together. We try as much as we can to give to church service when we go to church, which isn't even everyday! NOT TO FORGET my family members that have served in the air force and the military fighting for YOUR LIFE!! WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?!!!
I see you're still BOASTING about your accomplishments while JUDGING OTHERS....that is PATHETIC!!!
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Old 08-04-2010, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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Old 08-04-2010, 07:36 AM
 
Location: Prattville, Alabama
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It is this brand of Christianity, which not only Allen displays but many others, that makes people run as far away as they can get from it. They just don't realize how hypocritical and judgmental they really are even though they attempt to make themselves look superior to the rest of humanity...which is extremely UNCHRISTLIKE BEHAVIOR...but they really aren't fooling anyone at all!
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Old 08-04-2010, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Florida
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"Spreading the word of God of course!! We're there because of God!! "

And atheists are there because of the needs of the people......when they've just been devasted, I'm sure they are thrilled for you to be 'spreading the word' that god caused their disaster
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Old 08-04-2010, 07:56 AM
 
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"Spreading the word of God of course!! We're there because of God!! "

And atheists are there because of the needs of the people......when they've just been devasted, I'm sure they are thrilled for you to be 'spreading the word' that god caused their disaster
I'm sorry you guys about my boasting. I hope you can forgive me because I realized I am way OUT OF LINE this morning. But I just have to say God is not the one that caused their disaster. But I really am sorry. I should have never been boastful about what I've done and automatically assumed you have done nothing. Atheist as well as Christians as well as other people have contributed greatly to this country and other countries as well. And that's what I forgot. I get so ridiculous riled up with anger that I lose control and I can say things I don't mean and I didn't mean any of what I said. I have so much love for you guys. You have NO idea. Everyone contributes something to society. And it's not right for me to have acted like I am so superior or greater than you. Because I sure as heck am not. Chrstygirl you served in the Military. I can't say I have. I never risked my life for anyone so how dare I to even act like I was so much greater. I apolgize from the bottom of my heart to all of you. I really hope you can accept it because I truly feel like crap.
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Old 08-04-2010, 08:00 AM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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BOO HOO!! My mommy made me go to church when I was little and that's why I hate religion and God now!! That's the Atheist story. Paaaaaaaaaaaaathetic!!! Grow up!!! Christians are doing their job as missionaries and I don't see you Atheist doing crap. Not a single thing. Your not doing anything Arequipa! Your not doing anything but sitting on your computer. Don't you dare try to link yourself with people who are actually doing something. Because your not! You know what I'm doing and what my family has been doing?! My family has been on many MANY missionaries to our native Haiti and Africa donating and doing all we could for the children there. Spreading the word of God of course!! We're there because of God!! We have sponsored children over the years from other countries WHILE adopting children here in the U.S. My mom has had many foster children come through our home! Unfortunately, many couldn't stay because their parents got their lives back together. We try as much as we can to give to church service when we go to church, which isn't even everyday! NOT TO FORGET my family members that have served in the air force and the military fighting for YOUR LIFE!! WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?!!!
Made you look an intolerant ass for all the soft answer stuff you should have read in the Bible.

How about you cool down and stop trying to buy the debate with donations to the unfortunate. No -one ever proved history or science true or untrue by saying how much they gave to charity.

The creation debate is to be decided on logic and evidence, not claims to some higher moral ground.

Ps. I already take your apology above (not that it was needed). But as I say, this matter is a factual one, not a moral one. I do not buy that we should believe fallacy even if it does make people nicer, less criminal, more forgiving and fight harder, run faster and donate more.
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Old 08-04-2010, 08:07 AM
 
Location: Prattville, Alabama
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I'm sorry you guys about my boasting. I hope you can forgive me because I realized I am way OUT OF LINE this morning. But I just have to say God is not the one that caused their disaster. But I really am sorry. I should have never been boastful about what I've done and automatically assumed you have done nothing. Atheist as well as Christians as well as other people have contributed greatly to this country and other countries as well. And that's what I forgot. I get so ridiculous riled up with anger that I lose control and I can say things I don't mean and I didn't mean any of what I said. I have so much love for you guys. You have NO idea. Everyone contributes something to society. And it's not right for me to have acted like I am so superior or greater than you. Because I sure as heck am not. Chrstygirl you served in the Military. I can't say I have. I never risked my life for anyone so how dare I to even act like I was so much greater. I apolgize from the bottom of my heart to all of you. I really hope you can accept it because I truly feel like crap.
Don't sweat it buddy...just learn from your mistakes...and try to do better the next time. Life is a learning process and we can't grow if we don't make mistakes.
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Old 08-04-2010, 08:23 AM
 
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Made you look an intolerant ass for all the soft answer stuff you should have read in the Bible.

How about you cool down and stop trying to buy the debate with donations to the unfortunate. No -one ever proved history or science true or untrue by saying how much they gave to charity.

The creation debate is to be decided on logic and evidence, not claims to some higher moral ground.

Ps. I already take your apology above (not that it was needed). But as I say, this matter is a factual one, not a moral one. I do not buy that we should believe fallacy even if it does make people nicer, less criminal, more forgiving and fight harder, run faster and donate more.
I agree that I was out of line. But that doesn't mean I have changed my beliefs. You don't have to believe in God Arequipa. No one is asking you to. But I do. I always will. If my beliefs make me look like an intolerant ass to the rest of the world then so be it. Because I don't live for the world. I live to see Christ. I mean I admit sometimes I don't live like I'm living for Christ. I do things that are un-Christ like but I always try to pull myself back and get a grip and say to myself, are you serious?, that's not right. And I recognize when when I'm wrong. I was wrong how I responded and what I said. But it was only in retalion to you. See, when you say things like this

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Lol indeed. I think I have never seen such a superb example of a theist making a leap of faith, getting his feet tangled in his own illogic and smashing his face into the pavement.
That's what gets people upset and you can't blame me for being angry at you for that. INO, it's disrespectful and almost hateful. It's like you were rejoicing in trying to crush my faith and my beliefs. Which you didn't btw. But I felt like it's almost as if you hated the fact that I was a Christian. That's what it came off like to me. I apologize again if you did not mean it that way and I completely took it out of line.
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Old 08-04-2010, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
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..... I know why I created? but , I want from all , answer on my question ? , why you created ....??

Thank for all >>>

Does it really matter? We just are and that's good enough for me.
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Old 08-04-2010, 08:46 AM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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I agree that I was out of line. But that doesn't mean I have changed my beliefs. You don't have to believe in God Arequipa. No one is asking you to. But I do. I always will. If my beliefs make me look like an intolerant ass to the rest of the world then so be it. Because I don't live for the world. I live to see Christ. I mean I admit sometimes I don't live like I'm living for Christ. I do things that are un-Christ like but I always try to pull myself back and get a grip and say to myself, are you serious?, that's not right. And I recognize when when I'm wrong. I was wrong how I responded and what I said. But it was only in retalion to you. See, when you say things like this
Like Christy said, don't sweat it. Perhaps I was a bit out of line too by rejoicing in your prang. However it was just that it was such a beautiful misstep that I couldn't resist. And of course, it doesn't mean that you're wrong; it is just, as I say, a reminder not to be too hasty to dig out pseudo refutations - note, your hinting that the other side was somehow tainted with satan - worship was a bit uncalled for, mate - as they can often rebound.

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That's what gets people upset and you can't blame me for being angry at you for that. INO, it's disrespectful and almost hateful. It's like you were rejoicing in trying to crush my faith and my beliefs. Which you didn't btw. But I felt like it's almost as if you hated the fact that I was a Christian. That's what it came off like to me. I apologize again if you did not mean it that way and I completely took it out of line.
Well, I have explained above, and there's no need to make an issue of it.

As I say, your excellent record in handing out aid or zapping the enemy may be admirable but it isn't really the issue here. The debate is about why we were created and the counter - question of whether we even were. And that's a matter for logic and evidence if you want to get involved.
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