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Old 11-20-2010, 04:33 PM
 
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The Pope has just said the use of condoms is acceptable in some circumstances: for gay men to prevent the spread of HIV.

What do you think about this radical change of opinion by the Catholic Church?
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Old 11-20-2010, 04:42 PM
 
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Who the funk cares what the pope says?
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Old 11-20-2010, 05:52 PM
 
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"This is not a justification," he said. Rather, "The intention of protecting the other from disease, of using a condom, may be a sign of an awakening moral responsibility."

No, Your Holy Idiocy, it isn't. Gay men woke up 30 years ago. This is a sign of YOUR awakening moral responsibility.
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Old 11-20-2010, 07:44 PM
 
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I believe Humane Vitae indicated things that may have a sterilizing effect can be licit if the purpose is medicinal and not for contraception.

In the case of homosexuality, or I'd say any sodomy, it is already an inherently non-procreative act so condoms don't change that. However the intent being to prevent disease is positive. My parents aren't happy, and I have some concerns, but for awhile I've been leaning toward thinking that the "ABC" idea is kind of a good one. That you should be abstinent or faithful, but if you're not you might as well at least keep your sexual sins from harming others. Still I hope the Church's focus is on encouraging testing, abstinence, and fidelity and that they don't start preaching the simplistic "condoms are a 100% effective and solve everything" message.
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Old 11-20-2010, 07:51 PM
 
Location: Rome, Georgia
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The Pope has just said the use of condoms is acceptable in some circumstances: for gay men to prevent the spread of HIV.

What do you think about this radical change of opinion by the Catholic Church?
Aren't gay men unacceptable to the Pope? Weird.
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Old 11-20-2010, 08:14 PM
 
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Yay. This is a big step.
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Old 11-20-2010, 08:19 PM
 
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Who the funk cares what the pope says?
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Old 11-20-2010, 08:29 PM
 
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Aren't gay men unacceptable to the Pope? Weird.
I think that's part of the point. The action is already sinful and non-procreative, you aren't obligated to make it worse by refusing to reduce its danger. There was an Austrian cardinal who said something similar.

I am a bit shocked, but it is acceptable so long as it remains so restrained. (Although I would say it should apply to heterosexual sodomy as well)
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Old 11-20-2010, 08:51 PM
 
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The Catholic church is sooooo backwards.

It's 2011 and they are finally saying it's ok to use condoms.

Right..... How can anyone believe this nonsense?
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Old 11-20-2010, 09:03 PM
 
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You do realize its still 2010 right?
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