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I had some tough times during the early years but the satisfaction from my family, my work and the company of more than 300 young women definitely covered any possible suffering which might show up later. With modern pain medication how bad can it get?
Pretty bad,M.G.....pretty bad,especially in neurological disorders
Unless of course, you trade off 'living' for being semi- to un-conscious.
Psychologically, severe depression can make it impossible to enjoy anything.Everybody does not find a medication that works for them.
Pretty bad,M.G.....pretty bad,especially in neurological disorders
Unless of course, you trade off 'living' for being semi- to un-conscious.
Psychologically, severe depression can make it impossible to enjoy anything.Everybody does not find a medication that works for them.
At 77 I'm not thinking in that kind of detail. With an abscessed tooth and after a root canal(I've had four) Endocet completely dulls the pain. I don't even lose sleep.
At 77 I'm not thinking in that kind of detail. With an abscessed tooth and after a root canal(I've had four) Endocet completely dulls the pain. I don't even lose sleep.
WOW!! A root canal! How you must have suffered. Imagine having pain like that all over your body, hour after hour and day after day. And stuff like Endocet barely begins to dull the pain.
Medcation to stop that kind of pain lets you sleep too. In fact, that's about all you can do. For the rest of your life.
WOW!! A root canal! How you must have suffered. Imagine having pain like that all over your body, hour after hour and day after day. And stuff like Endocet barely begins to dull the pain.
Medcation to stop that kind of pain lets you sleep too. In fact, that's about all you can do. For the rest of your life.
Well I have had a ruptured appendix, severe peretinitis infection in the abdomen, two hemmorhoidectomies(sic) numerous broken bones, car wrecks, fist fights, probably a total of 300 stitches etc. but that was a long time ago...not much for pain. I was talking about recently. I'm nearly 77 years old...a lot has happened during those years.
Keep on trying...you can't scare me with that Moderator cut: deleted
There is much suffering in life. I grew up pretty blind to the suffering, and I think a lot of people in the US are still growing up blind to it all.
I think that, more than the fact that there is pain, is how we face it, that is important. Some people are able to endure physical pain for a cause they believe in. I admire that. When we have a vision for our life, we become very strong indeed. We need people to look up to, that give us energy, a goal, courage, inner strength. These types of "role models" help us to become strong.
Pleasure, imo, is not relevant to all of this. Pleasure is not the "antidote" to pain.
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There is much suffering in life. I grew up pretty blind to the suffering, and I think a lot of people in the US are still growing up blind to it all.
I think that, more than the fact that there is pain, is how we face it, that is important. Some people are able to endure physical pain for a cause they believe in. I admire that. When we have a vision for our life, we become very strong indeed. We need people to look up to, that give us energy, a goal, courage, inner strength. These types of "role models" help us to become strong.
Pleasure, imo, is not relevant to all of this. Pleasure is not the "antidote" to pain.
Aisi..
Blessings,
brian
It's amazing how believing in a higher authority that protects us helps us deal with even the worst that life throws at us!
Well I have had a ruptured appendix, severe peretinitis infection in the abdomen, two hemmorhoidectomies(sic) numerous broken bones, car wrecks, fist fights, probably a total of 300 stitches etc. but that was a long time ago...not much for pain. I was talking about recently. I'm nearly 77 years old...a lot has happened during those years.
Keep on trying...you can't scare me with that BS.
Are we twins by any chance. Maybe it is just that us old codgers who have passed 7 decades have by default lived through numerous physical pains. Oddly after my first plane crash and a year in a body cast, I discovered I can live with physical pain. I have found that emotional torment to be far more painful than any physical pain I ever experienced. My little visit to an obscure south east Asian country left me with a life of PTSD. My body left Viet Nam decades ago,My mind stayed there. I still wake up in horror each night. It is not the fear of dieing that comes back, it is always the faces of the lives I took that haunt me.
I feel that the greatest pains we experience are much more intense than the greatest pleasures we experience.
But over the years I learned that pleasure and happiness are not the same. I have not experienced pleasure for many years,however I am and continue to be a very happy man.
Are we twins by any chance. Maybe it is just that us old codgers who have passed 7 decades have by default lived through numerous physical pains. Oddly after my first plane crash and a year in a body cast, I discovered I can live with physical pain. I have found that emotional torment to be far more painful than any physical pain I ever experienced. My little visit to an obscure south east Asian country left me with a life of PTSD. My body left Viet Nam decades ago,My mind stayed there. I still wake up in horror each night. It is not the fear of dieing that comes back, it is always the faces of the lives I took that haunt me.
I feel that the greatest pains we experience are much more intense than the greatest pleasures we experience.
But over the years I learned that pleasure and happiness are not the same. I have not experienced pleasure for many years,however I am and continue to be a very happy man.
You don't need to go through 7 decades. I'm 32 and have had 3 heart surgeries (1 open-heart valve replacement, 2 catheterization procedures that failed to correct an arrhythmia caused by the open-heart surgery), a craniotomy to remove a brain tumor, and was diagnosed with arthritis at 14. My symptom list beats most codgers'. I had to give up basketball when I was 15, and I was pretty damned good. Physical suffering is way worse when you're young, because none of your peers understand it, and sometimes they ridicule you for it.
When you're 77 and about to expire, at least all your buddies and you can coalesce and discuss your various ailments. I have to ignore arthritis, shortness of breath, and side-effects from seizure medication while I chase my 4-year-old son around.
Try that on.
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