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Old 09-14-2011, 10:14 AM
 
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How is a quote from the bible my attempt to defame it? It seems to me that in that case the bible defames itself.
Do you follow the ten commandments? You do know that they are written in the old testament, right? The laws that you say have been abolished.
When you dont want to acknowledge THE ENTIRE Bible including who Christ is and what he accomplished in relation to the O.T. ...then it is a disengenuous strawman attack by doing what you did. You needed to be reprimanded and educated . The O.T. Laws havent been abolished ... its that we are now no longer held to them because no one could hold to all of them at all times ; now, we are under grace and the New Covenant in Christ is what our justification for being right with God, is based on. Are you going to get your sins completely erased before you meet God ? Its done by recieving Christ into your life as payment for your many sins. Can you admit you are a Sinner for a starting point ?
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Old 09-14-2011, 10:20 AM
 
Location: OKC
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When you dont want to acknowledge THE ENTIRE Bible including who Christ is and what he accomplished in relation to the O.T. ...then it is a disengenuous strawman attack by doing what you did. You needed to be reprimanded and educated . The O.T. Laws havent been abolished ... its that we are now no longer held to them because no one could hold to all of them at all times ; now, we are under grace and the New Covenant in Christ is what our justification for being right with God, is based on. Are you going to get your sins completely erased before you meet God ? Its done by recieving Christ into your life as payment for your many sins. Can you admit you are a Sinner for a starting point ?

Oh, so the OT laws haven't been abolished, you just are no longer held to them, I see the difference.

Wait, no I don't. Can you explain the difference to me?
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Old 09-14-2011, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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When you dont want to acknowledge THE ENTIRE Bible including who Christ is and what he accomplished in relation to the O.T. ...then it is a disengenuous strawman attack by doing what you did. You needed to be reprimanded and educated . The O.T. Laws havent been abolished ... its that we are now no longer held to them because no one could hold to all of them at all times ; now, we are under grace and the New Covenant in Christ is what our justification for being right with God, is based on. Are you going to get your sins completely erased before you meet God ? Its done by recieving Christ into your life as payment for your many sins. Can you admit you are a Sinner for a starting point ?
Are you going to admit that you pick and choose which laws you want to follow or not?...Actually you do admit that here.."we are now no longer held to them because no one could hold to all of them at all times"

Since you now admit that you do not follow all of gods laws, (nobody does) where do you think your morals come from?

DO NOT preach to me, as I do not appreciate it, since I am a sinless atheist, and shall forever remain so.
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Old 09-14-2011, 10:32 AM
 
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Oh, so the OT laws haven't been abolished, you just are no longer held to them, I see the difference.

Wait, no I don't. Can you explain the difference to me?
No . I dont want to because youre so biased not wanting God to even exist..that youd deny him even if he were nose to nose with you. If you want the answer, then dont be afraid to use google for this purpose. But until you are properly educated on what youre trying to defame, refrain from being a critic until such time.
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Old 09-14-2011, 10:39 AM
 
Location: OKC
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No . I dont want to because youre so biased not wanting God to even exist..that youd deny him even if he were nose to nose with you. If you want the answer, then dont be afraid to use google for this purpose. But until you are properly educated on what youre trying to defame, refrain from being a critic until such time.

I can tell that I know much more about the contents of the bible then you do, mainly because I've learned the parts that Christians know, and then I learned the parts that the Christians don't teach.
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Old 09-14-2011, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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I can tell that I know much more about the contents of the bible then you do, mainly because I've learned the parts that Christians know, and then I learned the parts that the Christians don't teach.
You mean the parts that Christians don't want to know?
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Old 09-14-2011, 10:53 AM
 
Location: OKC
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You mean the parts that Christians don't want to know?
If you know too much about it, you quickly find out it doesn't make any sense. So for people like 007.5, they just string together a chapter here, a verse there, and repeat the same stories year after year. Never turning the page to critically examine much of what is in the bible.

And there is zero attempt to maintain consistency. No matter how much 007.5 tells you here that we are no longer held to the OT, he will still go back and quote OT law as in full force and effect when he needs to validate a claim against gays or put the 10 commandments on the courthouse walls.
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Old 09-14-2011, 11:07 AM
 
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I have to pay taxes for schools, even though I don't have any children; I pay taxes that fund welfare, even though I've never received (thankfully!) welfare benefits; etc, etc, etc.
You shouldn't have to pay any tax to support what should be private, voluntary institutions.
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Old 09-14-2011, 11:09 AM
 
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So, you believe atheist are in favor of murder?
Atheists were/are strong proponents of eugenics.
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Old 09-14-2011, 11:11 AM
 
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I dont agree with sending troops to fight and die in wars which do not 'protect the homeland borders', and the killing of over 100,000 innocent civilians in those countries, but I am forced to pay for it, when I would far rather my tax dollars go to healthcare or education for our citizens.
While defense is a Consitutional requirement, neither healthcare nor education are Constitutional requirements.
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