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Old 11-25-2011, 10:19 AM
 
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I remember seeing something on A&E about Benjamin Franklin possibly being one.
Is this true or just speculation?
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Old 11-25-2011, 11:10 AM
 
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He engaged in rebellion against a king who ruled by divine right, engaged in pagan rituals involving kites and thunderstorms, and wrote essays about farting and qualities to look for in a mistress. What more evidence do you need?
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Old 11-25-2011, 11:24 AM
 
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He engaged in rebellion against a king who ruled by divine right, engaged in pagan rituals involving kites and thunderstorms, and wrote essays about farting and qualities to look for in a mistress. What more evidence do you need?
LOL. That, right there, made him a satanist. Farting sulphur is a sign.
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Old 11-25-2011, 11:36 AM
 
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Ha - the Dark Lord commands: flatulate!

I doubt Benjamin was a Satanist, though. It's probably from some reference to him being a Mason, and the typical conspiracy theory stuff about them being Satanists trying to take over the world, etc.

In fact - I doubt very many people were ever actually Satanists, ever. Such a term is pretty modern in it's implications. Anton Lavey wasn't around in Franklin's time.. Sort of like those people who claim they are wiccans, and that their practice is continuing some ancient celtic wiccan religion that's been practiced in secret for 2000 years, and has had to hide underground all this time - when it's really a mishmash of some modern ideas trying to harness the past. Or like Jehovah's Witnesses when they claim that there has been true "Witnesses" throughout history - even though the group technically evolved from a group of Millerites in the 1800s.

Franklin DID like the French ladies, though - he was a smooth operator, with his coon-skin cap on his head (which is a true story): there was a reason he was chosen to be the ambassador to the French during the Revolution, over the extremely anal and boring Adams. It was Adams, right? Any American history experts here?
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Old 11-25-2011, 04:02 PM
 
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I remember seeing something on A&E about Benjamin Franklin possibly being one.
Is this true or just speculation?
Saying they were satanists is just as false as saying they were Christians, thery were neither.

If they were anything at all, they were Deists.
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Old 11-25-2011, 04:52 PM
 
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Yeah I know Thomas paine was a deist.
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Old 11-25-2011, 07:24 PM
 
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Sounds like religious propaganda to me. A lot of our founding fathers were geniuses and by default knew that religion was a tool of the elite to control the masses (much akin to government). This automatically ment they were satan worshippers. Remember, in a lot of earlier years, denying god ment torture or death. Fitting in with the ignorant was the smarter thing to do back then.
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Old 11-25-2011, 09:00 PM
 
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He liked his beer, but not to the point of drunkeness ..... he was very temperate in all his habits, if his Autobiography is reliable. http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/148

He liked women, but wrote an essay about how much better the older ones were for affairs - that's not very Satanic if you ask me.
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Old 11-25-2011, 09:18 PM
 
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He liked his beer, but not to the point of drunkeness ..... he was very temperate in all his habits, if his Autobiography is reliable. The Autobiography of Benjamin Franklin by Benjamin Franklin - Project Gutenberg

He liked women, but wrote an essay about how much better the older ones were for affairs - that's not very Satanic if you ask me.
No, it's not. It's very rare to find even a professing Satanist who really believes in and seeks to be evil incarnate itself. Instead it's a game to them.

But the most dangerous people are those who do evil things while believing they are doing good things.
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Old 11-25-2011, 09:21 PM
 
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Ha - the Dark Lord commands: flatulate!

I doubt Benjamin was a Satanist, though. It's probably from some reference to him being a Mason, and the typical conspiracy theory stuff about them being Satanists trying to take over the world, etc.

In fact - I doubt very many people were ever actually Satanists, ever. Such a term is pretty modern in it's implications. Anton Lavey wasn't around in Franklin's time.. Sort of like those people who claim they are wiccans, and that their practice is continuing some ancient celtic wiccan religion that's been practiced in secret for 2000 years, and has had to hide underground all this time - when it's really a mishmash of some modern ideas trying to harness the past. Or like Jehovah's Witnesses when they claim that there has been true "Witnesses" throughout history - even though the group technically evolved from a group of Millerites in the 1800s.

Franklin DID like the French ladies, though - he was a smooth operator, with his coon-skin cap on his head (which is a true story): there was a reason he was chosen to be the ambassador to the French during the Revolution, over the extremely anal and boring Adams. It was Adams, right? Any American history experts here?
With regard to your comment about Wiccans. I have to take exception ! Sure, some practitioners don't follow the ways of the old religion. That can be said of pretty much all religions though. Nonetheless, it's not fair to stereotype.

As for Ben Franklin, he seemed to be more of a prototype hippie.
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