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So, my question is, how could you tell a child in this situation, that there is no God who loves them and even favors them?
You're kidding, right?
Tell lies to the kid in the vain hope that it would make him feel better?
Try to get the kid to believe that even though the god you believe in has the power to cure her and make her life a living paradise, that god is choosing not to do that?
I would tell him/her that God obviously isn't a very intelligent designer but fortunately mankind has a tool called medical science that is making great progress in correcting all the errors he made.
Oh brother, another inflaming styled thread. OP now has some answers, what I'd like to know is what is the idea here, whats the point exactly? People are very good in difficult situations.
If a person is even remotely normal, they know what to do. Its seen in the entries.
I have to wonder what the OP is looking for by asking this question. Are you looking for an Athiest/Pagan to tell the child that God is mean & that he did this to them?
Why when there are so many christians willing to say exactly that, or their other favorite: "It's all part of God's great masterful divine plan for you."
Life is action, reaction, random interaction, mostly physics but often chemistry (especially when physical deformities and illnesses are present).
It's just something that happens.
Not wondering...
Mircea
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Tell them the truth. God hates the "crippled"
Leviticus 21:17-24
New King James Version (NKJV)
17 “Speak to Aaron, saying: ‘No man of your descendants in succeeding generations, who has any defect, may approach to offer the bread of his God. 18 For any man who has a defect shall not approach: a man blind or lame, who has a marred face or any limb too long, 19 a man who has a broken foot or broken hand, 20 or is a hunchback or a dwarf, or a man who has a defect in his eye, or eczema or scab, or is a eunuch. 21 No man of the descendants of Aaron the priest, who has a defect, shall come near to offer the offerings made by fire to the Lord. He has a defect; he shall not come near to offer the bread of his God. 22 He may eat the bread of his God, both the most holy and the holy; 23 only he shall not go near the veil or approach the altar, because he has a defect, lest he profane My sanctuaries; for I the Lord sanctify them.’”
But the truth is god hates cripples and "defective" humans.
That's Jesus talking. Well, at least for those who are into the "Trinity thing." You have to wonder about a "perfect oving god" who would create imperfect beings and then punish them for being imperfect.
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I am sure you will tell us that that is not what the bible says. As a theist holding to the inerrancy of the bible, you are obliged to tell the truth to that child and not make up a benevolent god. After all this is the law(s) of god.
Oooops. I'm sure "context" will come up.
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Seeing disabled people in public makes us uncomfortable.
I never figured that out until I took a psychology course and the subject came up, but it made sense to me. People are often frightened of things that are different or things they don't understand completely.
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Originally Posted by SeekerSA
We generally know what causes these mutations and it is not because of the sins of the parents. It is a freak of nature.
It's a little more complicated than that. In some instances it's diet, others exposure to organic toxins, "bad" genes or a failure to communicate (the correct information from one gene to another during the processes).
Defectively...
Why when there are so many christians willing to say exactly that, or their other favorite: "It's all part of God's great masterful divine plan for you."
Life is action, reaction, random interaction, mostly physics but often chemistry (especially when physical deformities and illnesses are present).
It's just something that happens.
Not wondering...
Mircea
That's Jesus talking. Well, at least for those who are into the "Trinity thing." You have to wonder about a "perfect oving god" who would create imperfect beings and then punish them for being imperfect.
Oooops. I'm sure "context" will come up.
I never figured that out until I took a psychology course and the subject came up, but it made sense to me. People are often frightened of things that are different or things they don't understand completely.
It's a little more complicated than that. In some instances it's diet, others exposure to organic toxins, "bad" genes or a failure to communicate (the correct information from one gene to another during the processes).
Defectively...
Mircea
Without logical absolute consequence the theist has no case(order)... Please adjust improper philosophical translations . Also, supposed and above applied material consequence, would again hold senior or elder at temporal or material disadvantage. The material idea "dis-advantage " is not a satisfactory ransom, in suggested and projected philosophy, expressed in above entry relative to spiritualism .... An easy measure: Asians and wise Christians are comfortable in a deliverance from socially suggested material dis-advantage, in a regard for highly possible supremecy in contributing Senior thought.
Disadvantage... relative to the spiritualist... is an entirety of all consumed materialism, in mind.
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