Why does one need a God to have a universe? (soul, quote)
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Please share the proof you have that no God exists and the universe just came ... to be all on its own. Just happened. You know. As in Poof!
Then the matter is settled and we can all go to bed happy.
The fact you can't provide any, along with the billions of other people that believe in all the imaginary friends, yet offer nothing but fable and fairy tales make it perfectly clear.
Everytime I or my friend hank tries to make a universe it turns into a cottonpickin hole in the ground even with
tin stars and stuff placed in various locations and a ballon for a moon. We finally after six tries realized a guy
who is a creator could do better? God needs a universe to help us realize He is a creator of big things and
perhaps come to a eventual conclusion that this sucka has to be put together by a really supernatural power.
Let's all say that old kiddie's prayer, OK? It's appropriate right now I think...
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Originally Posted by Mr5150
No need for God?
Please share the proof you have that no God exists and the universe just came to be... all on its own. Just happened! You know. As in Poof!
Then the matter is settled and we can all go to bed happy.
Here; let me re-state your comment, Mr5150:
"Please share the proof you have for an existing God and how His universe came to be... all on it's own. Just happened. You know; As in Poof?"
Then, the matter is settled and we can all go to bed happy!"
('xeptin' you of course, since sadly for the literalist Jee-suhs-believer's perspective, science has a lot more and ever-better prediction-quality evidence [witness Dr. Krauss's explanation, all based on observations that can be replicated] than do Christians do for their now-officially outdated, super-antiquated and now well-disproven perspective!)
BTW, can you imagine the looks on the various centuries-after-the-fact biblical fantasy authors' faces if they'd watched Lawrence Krause's explanation here? Sorta like the look on my loving and trusting cat's face when I've tried to explain to her how a modern flat-screen HD TV differs from an old tube-type TV.
There are, of course, actual functional technical explanations for the two, {trust me, there are, and it's not The TV-Hand of God}, but they'd never get it. Just like my cat doesn't!! It simply exceeds the IQ [or technical curiosity...] of the listener!
That doesn't mean the reasons aren't there though, now does it? {though maybe it does, to you, 5150...}. Fact is, it just means that the listeners are to techno-stuppitt [or stubborn] to gittit!
Gittit?
So! Now go to bed, but remember to "...pray the Lord your soul to take, if you should die before you wake!"
Why is it such a ridiculous thought that the universe possibly arose from nothing? The belief that a god came from nothing and then created the universe(with magic I guess) doesn't seem so hard to believe, yet logically its even harder to believe, because it involves believing something more complex came from nothing, rather than something more simple or something more simple always existing. If you believe a god created the universe and its so hard to believe that something more simple existed without a god, why don't you give a creator to that god, which would be an even more complex being, in god logic , that creator would be needed to create the god that created the universe, because how can something like a god arise from nothing. With god logic in order for something less complex to exist there must exist something more complex to create it which leads to an endless chain of gods creating gods.
that's ridiculous right? nope, same logic applied further.
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Let's all say that old kiddie's prayer, OK? It's appropriate right now I think...
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