it was supposed to be an engagement not a prayer (church, abortion)
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this saturday i went to an engagement celebration of my female Muslim cousin got engage to another male Muslim. it was at the parents of the male muslim.(my cousin and her 3 other siblings are from muslim parents the dad my cousin is convert who married a Muslim woman the rest of my family are not Muslims ). i was expected a simple engagement ceremony instead it was a Muslim prayer session which lasted long. about 60-80 people came, If i had known that this invovled a long prayer session i would have stay outside or in another room until it was ended. they are going to get married this august. and i don't want to sit through another prayer session. she has 3 other siblings and when they get engaged in the future i will told them and my mother that i will not sit thought another long prayer session at their future engagements. if I wanted to go to Muslim prayer i will go to a mosque.
Agreed. Always interesting and somewhat egotistical and vain to presume others want to (or worse; need to...) see and hear someone's alternate theism. As you say, if you'd wanted to attend a foreign language (Farsi) prayer session...
I might suggest that you might offer to take your friend and his new wife out to a private dinner that is possibly supported and co-funded by you and some other non-Muslim invitees, and treat the bride & groom in that way as a celebration of their wedding (after it's been completed of course) , plus perhaps a tangible permanent gift of your choosing (a bible? Hee hee...).
You can explain that you couldn't understand. nor appreciate, the Islamic content of the first engagement "party", but that you hope they would accept and appreciate your hospitality as expressed in a nice cordial dinner!
Agreed. Always interesting and somewhat egotistical and vain to presume others want to (or worse; need to...) see and hear someone's alternate theism. As you say, if you'd wanted to attend a foreign language (Farsi) prayer session...
I might suggest that you might offer to take your friend and his new wife out to a private dinner that is possibly supported and co-funded by you and some other non-Muslim invitees, and treat the bride & groom in that way as a celebration of their wedding (after it's been completed of course) , plus perhaps a tangible permanent gift of your choosing (a bible? Hee hee...).
You can explain that you couldn't understand. nor appreciate, the Islamic content of the first engagement "party", but that you hope they would accept and appreciate your hospitality as expressed in a nice cordial dinner!
Personally, I would find that extremely disrespectful (and somewhat arrogant). Is their religion not 'good enough' in your eyes?
I agree that they might be touched by the private party, but to use it as a covert attempt to convert them is just plain bad manners, especially when they invited you to share in a very personal and life-changing moment.
Personally, I would find that extremely disrespectful (and somewhat arrogant). Is their religion not 'good enough' in your eyes?
I agree that they might be touched by the private party, but to use it as a covert attempt to convert them is just plain bad manners, especially when they invited you to share in a very personal and life-changing moment.
I agree. What possible reason could exist to give two people that you know are Muslim a bible?
I never said they did. In fact, I know several Muslims. What I said was that it's extremely rude to attend another culture's religious service and then start handing out your own religion's sacred text.
It would be like going into a Catholic church and handing out documents on abortion, or going to a Wiccan circle and requesting that the participants sacrifice a cat on the altar.
There are no actual Islamic wedding ceremonies or engagement parties.
Most of us consider engagement parties to be innovations and a desire to copy non-Islamic practices.
A wedding is not a religious ceremony it is the signing of a contract in front of witnesses. What many thing is an Islamic wedding is the Walimah or marriage feast that comes after the Nikkah(Marriage contract) has been signed.
this saturday i went to an engagement celebration of my female Muslim cousin got engage to another male Muslim. it was at the parents of the male muslim.(my cousin and her 3 other siblings are from muslim parents the dad my cousin is convert who married a Muslim woman the rest of my family are not Muslims ). i was expected a simple engagement ceremony instead it was a Muslim prayer session which lasted long. about 60-80 people came, If i had known that this invovled a long prayer session i would have stay outside or in another room until it was ended. they are going to get married this august. and i don't want to sit through another prayer session. she has 3 other siblings and when they get engaged in the future i will told them and my mother that i will not sit thought another long prayer session at their future engagements. if I wanted to go to Muslim prayer i will go to a mosque.
Engagement ceremonies in some traditions involve prayer sessions. Certainly weddings do as well.
i was expected a simple engagement ceremony instead it was a Muslim prayer session which lasted long. about 60-80 people came, If i had known that this invovled a long prayer session i would have stay outside or in another room until it was ended. they are going to get married this august. and i don't want to sit through another prayer session. she has 3 other siblings and when they get engaged in the future i will told them and my mother that i will not sit thought another long prayer session at their future engagements. if I wanted to go to Muslim prayer i will go to a mosque.
Honestly, I'd feel honored to be present during this kind of ceremonial prayer!
To each their own though, simply don't go if it offends you that much.
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