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Old 07-03-2012, 02:12 PM
 
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As I said, believe what you want, but even you have to admit that the bible got most of how the universe works wrong.
And why must I admit that?
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Old 07-03-2012, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Gaston, North Carolina
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But who created those atoms? Or space stuff?
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Old 07-03-2012, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Gaston, North Carolina
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As I said, believe what you want, but even you have to admit that the bible got most of how the universe works wrong.
Really? Please share. Quotes from the Bible would definitly help.
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Old 07-03-2012, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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And why must I admit that?
Well, you have a brain and are capable of thinking aren't you? So do you actually believe that a book that has talking animals, wizards, witches, demons, sticks turning into snakes, burning bushes, food falling from the sky, people walking on water, and all sorts of magical, absurd and primitive stories is non fiction?
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Old 07-03-2012, 04:59 PM
 
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Really? Please share. Quotes from the Bible would definitly help.
How about the entire book of Genesis, for starters.
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Old 07-03-2012, 05:17 PM
 
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But who created those atoms? Or space stuff?
No one. Why does it need to be created?
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Old 07-03-2012, 06:02 PM
 
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Well, you have a brain and are capable of thinking aren't you? So do you actually believe that a book that has talking animals, wizards, witches, demons, sticks turning into snakes, burning bushes, food falling from the sky, people walking on water, and all sorts of magical, absurd and primitive stories is non fiction?
Because I have a brain and am capable of thinking I can understand how these things are true.

If you work on the voice box of some birds, like starlings, you can get them to talk. Of course you know about Parrots, and many other birds that can talk, right?

Are you saying that the God Who brought all the universe into existence that it is too hard for Him to turn a stick into a snake? Simple quantum physics on an incredible level.

Do you think it is too hard for Him who fed about 15,000 on a couple fish and a few loaves of bread could not feed a couple million every day? Just because God used physics we are not apprised of yet does not mean it can't be done and surely does not mean it is fiction.

Are you saying Satan is not powerful enough to talk to someone through a snake?
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Old 07-03-2012, 06:40 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Because I have a brain and am capable of thinking I can understand how these things are true.

If you work on the voice box of some birds, like starlings, you can get them to talk. Of course you know about Parrots, and many other birds that can talk, right?

Are you saying that the God Who brought all the universe into existence that it is too hard for Him to turn a stick into a snake? Simple quantum physics on an incredible level.

Do you think it is too hard for Him who fed about 15,000 on a couple fish and a few loaves of bread could not feed a couple million every day? Just because God used physics we are not apprised of yet does not mean it can't be done and surely does not mean it is fiction.

Are you saying Satan is not powerful enough to talk to someone through a snake?
What I'm saying is that the entire concept of god and everything it includes is nothing more than man made fantasies that only the gullible could possibly believe....No stick snakes, talking donkeys, water walking, water to wine, or any of those other impossible things have ever happened, and never will.
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Old 07-03-2012, 06:49 PM
 
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What I'm saying is that the entire concept of god and everything it includes is nothing more than man made fantasies that only the gullible could possibly believe....No stick snakes, talking donkeys, water walking, water to wine, or any of those other impossible things have ever happened, and never will.
But that's just it, the entire concept of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and everything inclusive is factual and historical as recorded by eye-witnesses. It has nothing to do with gullibleness. It has to do with believability. To me God is believable. I have no reason to believe He would lie to me. A God that can create the entire universe can surely open the voice of a donkey. He knows quantum physics much better than we and can have people walk on water. He can make people walk through walls, disappear and re-appear in another town instantly. Just because you don't see it does not mean it is not reality. Did you know that you can move two atoms at completely different ends of the universe and what happens to one that is tied to the other causes instantly to react as if there were no distance? When you can explain that physics to me you can explain to me whey people can't walk on water.
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Old 07-03-2012, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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But the problem is god didn't create anything, let alone the universe...You have only your parents and the gleam in your father's eye to thank for your creation.
I'm familiar with spooky action at a distance, as Einstein called it...He couldn't explain it, so what makes you think I can?
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