Truth before religion AND science... (atheism, quote, God, evolution)
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Both sides claim to have it all, both sides have some of it and neither side has all of it.
Science and religion are equal in that respect but both perspectives are simply different means to seek the truth, not the truth itself.
People who enjoy looking back to laugh at those working their way up the trail behind them should turn around... they still have an entire mountain to climb before they reach the summit themselves, and they are not on the only trail to the top.
Both sides claim to have it all, both sides have some of it and neither side has all of it.
Science and religion are equal in that respect but both perspectives are simply different means to seek the truth, not the truth itself.
People who enjoy looking back to laugh at those working their way up the trail behind them should turn around... they still have an entire mountain to climb before they reach the summit themselves, and they are not on the only trail to the top.
I wouldn't say science and religion are equal in terms of truth value. For example, if science and religion are equal, then that means Creationism/Intelligent Design is just as valid as evolution.
"equal in that respect", not in their functional usefulness.
Lets say this: Science is the gondola ride to the top in a heated/air conditioned cabin.
Religion is a bit harder, 'round a windy, steep path that goes down nearly as often as it goes up but perhaps it's more rewarding to take the "scenic route"...
And route-finding on your own is the hardest and most dangerous path of all... but perhaps the most personally rewarding in the end.
Well, you know, Chango, I would have thought it was the other way around - with evidence you follow it and find it goes all over the place and sometimes you find you made a wrong turn. It's demanding but the effort is absolutely worth it.
With religion it seems more like -Here you are. This answers all the questions about everything. God, did everything, does everything and is everything. The only hard part is matching up to what this god requires of one. It sometimes becomes necessary to reinvent the god to fit what one is prepared to render, or find some kind of mental firewall against worrying about how short one is falling. Maybe that's the tough part of the religion journey. Hanging on when the road is collapsing beneath.
"equal in that respect", not in their functional usefulness.
Lets say this: Science is the gondola ride to the top in a heated/air conditioned cabin.
Religion is a bit harder, 'round a windy, steep path that goes down nearly as often as it goes up but perhaps it's more rewarding to take the "scenic route"...
And route-finding on your own is the hardest and most dangerous path of all... but perhaps the most personally rewarding in the end.
Well, I think that religion take you on a wrong path, a dangerous path, both for yourself and for your passengers, who may bear unintended consequences of taking the path. I also think that religion is a dead end.
Both sides claim to have it all, both sides have some of it and neither side has all of it.
Science and religion are equal in that respect but both perspectives are simply different means to seek the truth, not the truth itself.
People who enjoy looking back to laugh at those working their way up the trail behind them should turn around... they still have an entire mountain to climb before they reach the summit themselves, and they are not on the only trail to the top.
Just a thought...
Actually, in somerespects science is a religion..
But we are going to see in the future a blending.. a merging of the two.. science can't figure out the universe because it's missing the "spiritual" piece.. so eventually there gonna stop ignoring it.. and find some answers that some religious folks already had.. patience watson
If you want another analogy.. simply look at it like this.. science is left brained.. and spirit/understanding the universe/yourself is right brained.. if you look at reality from your LEFT brain.. you'll never figure it out.. when you can look at it from both sides in "balance" in a wholeness then you get the clearer view..
The problem is many scientists pretend they are on balanced/neutral footing.. but they lie some of them are very biased.. same can be said for people in the religious camp.. lol
Both sides claim to have it all, both sides have some of it and neither side has all of it.
Science and religion are equal in that respect
No.
They are NOT equivalent in that respect. What's with this modern habit of giving false equivalency to crazy claims? Why give it equal time at all? Are you from Fox News or something? When science proves an empirical fact, like babies cannot be born from virgin mothers or that dead people can't come back to life after 3 days, there is no reason to even consider the "other side" as if it has ANY legitimacy. If truth is the goal, then making things up with magical thinking should not be considered "equal" at all.
If science proves 1+1=2, you don't give equal credence to a nutjob who walks into the room and says he has a divine book that proves 1+1=banana.
Both sides claim to have it all, both sides have some of it and neither side has all of it.
False. And disingenuous.
Science does not claim to "have it all". If it did... it would stop. There would be no more for it to do.
The whole agenda of science is built around the fact we do NOT "have it all" and we want to. The entire pursuit of science is based on the fact there are many things we do not know and we wish to find out. It is also based on the fact that what we know today could actually be wrong and we have to be prepared to throw it out and change our mind tomorrow if new data comes in to falsify what we think we already know is true.
The is the exact opposite of claiming to "have it all" and as such your OP could not be more wrong if you tried.
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