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how does one contradict a spoon and a cup, one is used to scoop and stir while the other holds liquid or remains hollow. Now both are unlike for they are used for different objectives. Both materials may have one thing in common.Both are used for the same materials one way or the other.
So what is the difference between Science, Religion and God, the main argument today is between atheist and theist not religion. Religion is faith while science leads to proof. Personally i find it pointless to have a discussion over faith and science because these are actually two different subjects but they still have one thing in common both are focusing on a deity within, just like a spoon and cup focus on the same materials but with different properties. Our problems in discussion over atheism and theism is we tend to use science which obviously contradicts with religion, it brings a lot of confusion because the two are adjacent and still they come to the same source if one observes.
Man created religion but did man made God? We know we were never here to witness the beginning because non of us where there to witness. Most theories we have today about the beginning of the universe are absolutely nonsense, science is indeed limited to some extent, how can you prove a theory that has not be examined with our physical senses?
Only the universe knows or should i say only God knows, as we all know today that the universe is indeed everywhere and nobody knows when it began or it probably has always been what it is. It's like having a single red blood cell tracing its origins, then later it finds out it circulates in a blood system without a clue it is still unaware of same or similar blood system(animals, humans).
Our bodies are ever producing new cells all the time and old ones die out same as other living beings such as animals. The universe itself is also like a living organ as it is full of energy, current like our bodies and it is ever producing stars, planets and solar systems like our own and old ones die out making way for the new life. Like All things that are in flux and nothing is permanent.
what about our thoughts they create our daily lives can we see them? yup they manifest through our 5 physical senses in many ways. So what about the universe how did it manifest itself into this physical nature? after all it is all energy and we only witness energy through its manifestation, could it be that a deity is indeed responsible for our cause. Everything seem to have manifested and nothing is permanent, our cities technology and civilization where just a thought at one point but here we are living amongst them and so is everything in this universe is created by another life. My verdict proves that God is not just a religious icon, but we ought to create a religion to praise his creation.
Science is about proof while religion is about faith and God is the energy within the universe. Ponder on matters within for they are bigger than yesterday and today's matter
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how does one contradict a spoon and a cup, one is used to scoop and stir while the other holds liquid or remains hollow. Now both are unlike for they are used for different objectives. Both materials may have one thing in common.Both are used for the same materials one way or the other.
So what is the difference between Science, Religion and God, the main argument today is between atheist and theist not religion. Religion is faith while science leads to proof. Personally i find it pointless to have a discussion over faith and science because these are actually two different subjects but they still have one thing in common both are focusing on a deity within, just like a spoon and cup focus on the same materials but with different properties. Our problems in discussion over atheism and theism is we tend to use science which obviously contradicts with religion, it brings a lot of confusion because the two are adjacent and still they come to the same source if one observes.
Man created religion but did man made God? We know we were never here to witness the beginning because non of us where there to witness. Most theories we have today about the beginning of the universe are absolutely nonsense, science is indeed limited to some extent, how can you prove a theory that has not be examined with our physical senses?
Only the universe knows or should i say only God knows, as we all know today that the universe is indeed everywhere and nobody knows when it began or it probably has always been what it is. It's like having a single red blood cell tracing its origins, then later it finds out it circulates in a blood system without a clue it is still unaware of same or similar blood system(animals, humans).
Our bodies are ever producing new cells all the time and old ones die out same as other living beings such as animals. The universe itself is also like a living organ as it is full of energy, current like our bodies and it is ever producing stars, planets and solar systems like our own and old ones die out making way for the new life. Like All things that are in flux and nothing is permanent.
what about our thoughts they create our daily lives can we see them? yup they manifest through our 5 physical senses in many ways. So what about the universe how did it manifest itself into this physical nature? after all it is all energy and we only witness energy through its manifestation, could it be that a deity is indeed responsible for our cause. Everything seem to have manifested and nothing is permanent, our cities technology and civilization where just a thought at one point but here we are living amongst them and so is everything in this universe is created by another life. My verdict proves that God is not just a religious icon, but we ought to create a religion to praise his creation.
Science is about proof while religion is about faith and God is the energy within the universe. Ponder on matters within for they are bigger than yesterday and today's matter
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Hummmmm, I take it you didn't do that well in the formal logic class.
I think it's on the right lines Dusty, though some is a little speculative.
Science is right to come to conclusions about what can be checked and tested. Anything else is open to speculation. That's fine until such speculations are then taken, on Faith, as fact. That's illogical. which, again, is fine so long as it's understood as illogical. It's when all sorts of illogic is used to try to claim that it is logical in a way that mere logic can't understand (so to speak) that it all gets a bit dishonest.
coosjoaquin so what is your definition of God, science and religion?
Well one is easy to describe because there is just one definition of it but if you ask 10 different people about the other two then chances are you will get 10 completely different answers.
Man created religion but did man made God? We know we were never here to witness the beginning because non of us where there to witness. Most theories we have today about the beginning of the universe are absolutely nonsense, science is indeed limited to some extent, how can you prove a theory that has not be examined with our physical senses?
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This premise is wrong.
Our physical senses are extremely limited when it comes to experiencing the world around us.
Our physical senses evolved as a survival instinct, not as means to validate universal truths and laws of nature.
Our physical senses can be shown in many ways that they can be fooled, tricked, manipulated, or simply be blind to much of the world around us.
For example:
Visible light is just a small bandwidth of the electromagnetic spectrum. X-rays, gamma rays, infrared...
There is a small range of pressure wave frequencies that our ears are tuned to hear as sounds. Think of dog whistles.
Quantum physics? Our senses are oblivious to such things. Doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
If you want to start a discussion, lets not start out by misunderstanding the foundations of science and the limitations of our own senses.
When it is possible to fully test a theory, it passes and becomes a law.
...ummm, no.
Laws describe characteristics (Newton's "laws of motion" don't try to explain why, it only tells how objects in motion behave), theories explain (and the knowledge of physics has changed a lot since Newton, yet the "laws" are still in place).
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