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Is being celibate until marriage important to you? I am aware most people would would not consider that important, even for many people that consider themselves as Christians.
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Don't think it really ever was except in officialdom.
As stated 40 years ago and two marriages there was no celibacy before marriage, in between marriages or after marriages. Sometimes there is celibacy during marriage.
I doubt I'll ever get married again, but I sure the heck I'm not going to stay celibate. My girlfriend agrees.
Is being celibate until marriage important to you? I am aware most people would would not consider that important, even for many people that consider themselves as Christians.
I know what you're saying, so, I'm not trying to nit pick or be a word Nazi but I think the more appropriate word you're looking for is abstaining from sex.
When someone speaks of celibacy in Catholicism they are talking about a vow of a commitment for the rest of that person's life.
People are called to be chaste in Christianity by which Christians mean abstaining from sex if they are not married, and if they are married than having sex only with their spouse.
I think some young Protestant women in recent years taken up chastity vows, yes? I'm not 100% sure but I seem to be remember reading or hearing about that on TV.
I would prefer to be sexually chaste, yes. How well I would accomplish that would be another matter. I've already had sexual intercourse, so, I know what it's like, which brings the dilemma of biting into the forbidden fruit.
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I think sex is more than just about pleasure. It can be, at its most base, but I think it can also be profoundly intimate and beautiful, an expression of love and a way to get in touch with the loving parts of our own nature and find them in another person. It can bring two people together in a way that can make them more loving and more bonded to each other, and I think that's beautiful and is why I don't see it as just something frivolous and expendable. I do think that maintaining a certain amount of self control as far as who to have sex with, however, is an important part of having respect for oneself.
I prefer to be celibate before marriage. I admit I have not been chaste in the past yet I believe being chaste is the best approach before marriage. Yet I not here to condemn people that choose not to. It is a personal choice.
People can come to know and fully concede mutually in their minds to what they both know is going to be a real relationship . People then marry each other and then share the big deal with the community religion and the ceremony. Or city hall.
So thats about that, there are real combo's and travel combos. Many people only get to the travel combo because there are so many distractions in todays world.
If a person cheats outside of either deal , they will cheat regardless of a piece of paper, not my experience at all but thats how things are. They may not be married but it was real and a perfect match, so it worked out and no cheating. Thats the way its supposed to be, when you know you know and there should'nt be any cheating after , married or not. As a casual handshake for the bonding in a travel for now convenience (todays world...oh well we met and are male vrs female, I don't know if your specisl enough or if Im special enough for you but..lets pretend K ? lets adore as though we have earned and achieved (contradiction)
I think sex is more than just about pleasure. It can be, at its most base, but I think it can also be profoundly intimate and beautiful, an expression of love and a way to get in touch with the loving parts of our own nature and find them in another person. It can bring two people together in a way that can make them more loving and more bonded to each other, and I think that's beautiful and is why I don't see it as just something frivolous and expendable. I do think that maintaining a certain amount of self control as far as who to have sex with, however, is an important part of having respect for oneself.
That sounds like something out of the Catholic Catechism, BIMBAM.
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Sex itself is just base, often with less than pleasant odors, and other peoples disgusting body fluids. If anything its like crawling through a sewer to get a paycheck. That paycheck might make you smile. Some out of shape woman treating her yeast infection, and her dark, stank, feces has-been-covered anus that is visible during missionary sex, with vaginal fluid dripping down it is not beautiful. Not to me. No more than the torn apart remains of the fetus she aborts after her "beautiful" sex unites her and her boyfriend in an "expression of love."
Sex is somethings rats do. And I assume cockroaches do it too.
I do my share of porn watching. Sex has the attraction of contradicting the Catholic Catechism which teaches equality in sex rather than domination should be a prevailing principle, and that due to the fallen nature of man domination/submission tends to be the prevailing principle in sex between people. And "banging" a woman hard is the goal of just about most people in sex. Most women like to be dominated in sex in some form and most men like to do the domination. Most. But it goes the other way too. And then there is the play of "switching" roles too.
Gay and lesbian porn typically has the domination/submission theme too. Actually, especially with lesbians, most their real life relationships model the one person is the "man" and the other person is the "woman" role. And it's centered in domination/submission as physically neither one of the women is a man, but simply one performs the masculine role.
This song expresses 99% or maybe 99.99% of sex in Black-American Hip Hop culture. Niki Minaj one of the celebrity morality Popes of our times raps on the cut I think. Pretty good jam. You can listen to it on youtube:
Rich Gang - Tapout.
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