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I learn that life and death are not in my hands or even in the hands in the physicians, but they are in the "hands of God' my Creator...
That's fair enough Shana! If you do get a terminal illness..or any other serious illness, I trust that you will rely on 'the will of God" rather than seek a medical solution from physicians. Good luck with it!!
Originally Posted by ST1100 I'm perfectly able to draw my own conclusions. Wrong or right, at least my opinions are entirely mine.
Is this a question or a presumptive statement? Don't bother to answer, the question was merely rhetorical.
If you can’t stand to be questioned or be criticised I'd suggest that you stay out of the kitchen. That is the only way that you’ll never be questioned or be criticised.
Christians are humans and like any other human they make mistakes. The problem is that people (whether they are theists or atheists) who believe that they can only be absolutely right often are wrong.
OK Tricky! I'll let you have the last word for the sake of peace. Now, would you like to debate the OP or not?
That's fair enough Shana! If you do get a terminal illness..or any other serious illness, I trust that you will rely on 'the will of God" rather than seek a medical solution from physicians. Good luck with it!!
Hi ST100, remember I said a "terminal" illness. How would I know that it was terminal unless I had been to physicians? Terminal means that the physicians would have revealed that it is, so I did not say anything about not consulting physicians or that it was a serious illness. In view of it being terminal, I might learn to trust God in the most difficult situation. And in view of it being terminal as determined by physicians, I might learn to seek God to see if it He might bring healing despite the report of the physicians, if it would be His will. God bless!
What has this fencing with words got to do with the original OP?
Why not divert the energies you're using in hair splitting and scoring points to helping those poor unfortunate people who are suffering in Bangladesh?
Ahh but then that would be showing some real Christianity instead of the usual zealous bible thumping.
Hi there Northsider, the poster wanted to know if this could be defended as an act of God and feels that if God was benevolent He would have stopped it. A response was, “not necessarily” and the reasons for the response given.
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Why not divert the energies you're using in hair splitting and scoring points to helping those poor unfortunate people who are suffering in Bangladesh?
Ahh but then that would be showing some real Christianity instead of the usual zealous
Bible thumping?
How do you know, Northsider, how people involved in this discussion, are responding to the disaster in Bangledesh? Energy may be directed in many ways to help the people of Bangladesh and to share with one another in the discussions. What you may see as hairsplitting and scoring points may be attempts to clarify what has been posted. The forums are for discussion of various topics. Take care and God bless.
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What has this fencing with words got to do with the original OP?
The OP suggested that it was God who created the tornado and then he starts to blame God for humanity's own stupidity.
Personally I don’t even believe that he really cares about Bangladesh. He only uses it as a platform to launch his opinions. But that could be me making a presumptive statement about the OP.
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Ahh but then that would be showing some real Christianity instead of the usual zealous bible thumping.
As far as I know I haven't touched anything besides Wikipedia, let alone zealously thumped a bible at someone.
Nor have I ever claimed to be a Christian.
I had not visited the Quinnforums awhile and suddenly was banned.
They know the way I post and why, yet never censored me. Like me they believe in saying what you mean and that the freedom of speech is important.
Much like here.
That is why it came as a surprise that I was banned after not having been there for a few weeks.
I think that I'm banned because they suspect me of being a theist. Or worse a Christian, since I told them I was posting here also. It was on the Quinnforum where I had a long discussion with a born again Christian, which sparked my interest to visit a philosophy & religion forum.
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If you analyse the way you address people you might get an idea!
I don't need to analyse, I always trust my gut instinct.
There are people who don't like me being honest and confrontational but as long as I have evidence to back up my claims I do not consider that my problem. I don't care about popularity.
For example: when people tell a lie and I find evidence of that I call them a liar. If they don't want me to call them a liar, the only thing they have to do is not tell a lie.
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Hi ST100, remember I said a "terminal" illness. How would I know that it was terminal unless I had been to physicians? Terminal means that the physicians would have revealed that it is, so I did not say anything about not consulting physicians or that it was a serious illness.
Hello Shana. You said that you believe you are "in God's hands" so why would you go to a doctor in the first place? Why would you not just accept that any illness is 'the will of God' and trust him to sort out the problem...without resorting to science?
PS. It's ST1100 btw.
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Good luck with it!!
Wrong or right, at least my opinions are entirely mine. 
Don't bother to answer, the question was merely rhetorical.
The problem is that people (whether they are theists or atheists) who believe that they can only be absolutely right often are wrong.
I thought I already did so in post #33.
As far as I know I haven't touched anything besides Wikipedia, let alone zealously thumped a bible at someone. 
