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Old 06-04-2014, 10:24 AM
 
Location: West Virginia
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Actually, it's saying that the world has one way of reaching the children (Hitler) and God has another.
Both quotes seem to be saying about the same thing (IMHO).
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Old 06-04-2014, 10:25 AM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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Well to be honest. People who represent some atheist causes have made some billboard boo boos themselves. So I won't be to harsh for a (from my pov) poor choice of media.

That particular bill board speaks volumes. Especially if one believes that bible is infallible and needs to be taken literally.
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Old 06-04-2014, 10:35 AM
 
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That particular bill board speaks volumes. Especially if one believes that bible is infallible and needs to be taken literally.
Why? It doesn't literally tell us to keep slaves. That's what frustrates us--you guys don't seem to WANT to understand the context. At least TRY to understand that which you mock, will you?
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Old 06-04-2014, 10:39 AM
 
Location: USA
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Good grief. The point of contrast in goals in a battle for hearts and minds should be obvious, but you are right.....too intellectual a concept for mass media used to third grade level thinking. They are taking it down.
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Old 06-04-2014, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Why? It doesn't literally tell us to keep slaves. That's what frustrates us--you guys don't seem to WANT to understand the context. At least TRY to understand that which you mock, will you?
We've seen plenty of examples of the convoluted pretzel logic you call "context."
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Old 06-04-2014, 11:17 AM
 
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We've seen plenty of examples of the convoluted pretzel logic you call "context."
And you continue to persist in your misunderstanding. At this point I have to think it's intentional.
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Old 06-04-2014, 11:27 AM
 
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If you happen to be driving on a particular stretch of road around Auburn, Alabama, you may come across a billboard with an inspiration quote on it – that happens to be from Adolf Hitler.
I don't think it "happens to be" from Hitler. Someone chose it. And they chose to give Hitler top billing and larger font.

It's one strange billboard. They could have used just the Bible passage, the fresh-faced kids, and left Hitler out of it. Personally, were I driving along and saw a billboard with a big ol' quote from a mass-murderer, I'd ignore the rest.
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Old 06-04-2014, 11:35 AM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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Why? It doesn't literally tell us to keep slaves. That's what frustrates us--you guys don't seem to WANT to understand the context. At least TRY to understand that which you mock, will you?
Actually, it pretty well does.

Context is:

Slavery is OK and accepted
Slaves, listen to your masters

End of story.

From a Christian apologist:
Finally, the allegedly Christian abolitionists were not only wrong in their reasoning, they were actually guilty of encouraging sin. Paul exhorted slaves to love their masters and serve them obediently, for this was pleasing to God (Eph. 6:5-8; Col. 3:22-24). Rather than encouraging slaves to be obedient and content in their position as the Bible instructs, professing Christians were fomenting rebellion.

It will be easy to set down this article and react with disgust and disbelief that anyone could say such things in the 1990's. Slavery, however, like any other topic, must be approached via the Scriptures, and not through the spirit of the age.
Then there is this little tidbit: (gotta love the bible, it is instructive on how to be a sexual deviant)
Sexual Activity with an Engaged Female Slave: A man who rapes or engages in consensual sex with a female slave who is engaged to be married to another man must sacrifice an animal in the temple in order to obtain God's forgiveness. The female slave would be whipped. There is apparently no punishment or ritual animal killing required if the female slave were not engaged; men could rape such slaves with impunity.
Leviticus 19:20-22: "And whosoever lieth carnally with a woman, that is a bondmaid, betrothed to an husband, and not at all redeemed, nor freedom given her; she shall be scourged; they shall not be put to death, because she was not free. And he shall bring his trespass offering unto the LORD, unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, even a ram for a trespass offering. And the priest shall make an atonement for him with the ram of the trespass offering before the LORD for his sin which he hath done: and the sin which he hath done shall be forgiven him."
Then there is this beauty of a treatise on why slavery is justified by good god fearing Christians:

Here is the authority, from God himself, to hold men and women, and their increase, in slavery, and to transmit them as property forever; here is plenary power to govern them, whatever measure of severity it may require; provided only, that to govern, be the object in exercising it. Here is power given to the master, to separate man and wife, parent and child, by denying ingress to his premises, sooner than compel him to free or sell the mother, that the marriage relation might be honored. The preference is given of God to enslaving the father rather than freeing the mother and children.


That Thornton Stringfellow sure was a good Christian. A good Baptist too. A good, Christian, Baptist pastor.
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Old 06-04-2014, 11:40 AM
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That billboard is ironic.

It basically says - our indoctrination is better than the worlds. It assumes their brainwashing it the correct one - brilliant.

Furthermore, both the Nazi Party and Christianity are religious ideologies that had little respect for individual freedoms.

Ironic indeed!
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Old 06-04-2014, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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And you continue to persist in your misunderstanding. At this point I have to think it's intentional.
I misunderstood nothing. Your attempts at contextual apologetics are risible and an embarrassment to reason.
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