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Old 04-21-2015, 10:42 AM
 
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We can expect this sort of evil from them.
But to call them animals is grossly unfair -- to the animals.

wow, and to think that we used to think the same thing of you Christians...and you used to call us savages..
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Old 04-21-2015, 11:22 AM
 
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As there were situations not fully covered in religion, the Madhabs of Islamic Jurisprudence evolved, They are among the earliest Law Schools. These are the schools of Islamic Jurisprudence (Sharia)
They re a very complex set of laws and deal with Religious, Criminal and Civil law. They are among the oldest set of laws in history and one of the earliest law codes that gave power to the populace.
While the 4 madhabs are similar, they are not identical and provide a level of flexibility related to local culture and new developments. they are somewhat dynamic and not static.
which countries implement your so called "Madhabs of Islamic Jurisprudence"
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Old 04-21-2015, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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which countries implement your so called "Madhabs of Islamic Jurisprudence"
None,at least not for criminal law.

What people see as Sharia is not Sharia as I have mentioned several times.

Personally I find US criminal law to be closer to Sharia than what Saudi and Iran call Sharia. US criminal law has some resemblance to the Hanafi Madhab. Saudi follows the Criminal code established by the al-Saud monarchy. Iran follows Jafa'ari.

Sharia Civil law however is widespread among the Islamic Nations about 30% follow Hanafi, only 2 follow Hanbali Civil law--Saudi and Kuwait. the remaining follow Shafi'i or Maliki. Civil law carries no physical punishments although it may carry fines. Similar to US civil law.
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Old 04-21-2015, 12:07 PM
 
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None,at least not for criminal law.

What people see as Sharia is not Sharia as I have mentioned several times.
that only shows that muslims dont really know how to straighten out sharia law. look at the latest attempt happening in syria & iraq.
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Old 04-21-2015, 12:16 PM
 
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that only shows that muslims dont really know how to straighten out sharia law. look at the latest attempt happening in syria & iraq.

They are not trying to have Sharia, they are tyrants, trying to impose their own laws and call it Sharia,
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Old 04-21-2015, 12:50 PM
 
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that only shows that muslims dont really know how to straighten out sharia law. look at the latest attempt happening in syria & iraq.
Not really...There's been no concerted attempt at the implementation of Shari'a for a few centuries now. There was a half hearted attempt by the Taliban that failed as they mixed cultural law (named Pashtunwali) with the religious law (Shari'a). Outside of that we have dictators, tyrants & monarchies whom will implement elements of the Shari'a they like, ignore the elements they don't and suspend the elements they did implement when it means they have to be accountable for themselves.
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Old 04-21-2015, 02:42 PM
 
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america had how many presidents? 44. how many of them were tyrants?


muslim countries cover half the planet and yet each one is plagued by tyrants for centuries now.

thats because mixing politics and religion is in itself tyranical.
that perfectly benign sharia is really nothing but an impossible dream.
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Old 04-21-2015, 02:47 PM
 
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america had how many presidents? 44. how many of them were tyrants?


muslim countries cover half the planet and yet each one is plagued by tyrants for centuries now.

thats because mixing politics and religion is in itself tyranical.
that perfectly benign sharia is really nothing but an impossible dream.
Did you read anything we wrote? Muslim countries have been ruled by secular law for centuries, there is no true mixing of religion and politics in the region, there is what the ruler/monarchy wants and that is the law. Shari'a actually limits greatly what a ruler can and can not do, and rulers tend to not like that.

Please listen...review...and learn from this non-Muslim Columbia Professor of History:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGwZ4RGnNRY

And the US hasn't had tyrants? Did we forget that George Bush was in office not too long ago? I think he's responsible for the death of nearly 500,000 Iraqi Muslims for what amounted to nothing but personal gain, oil interests and the protection of Israel?
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Old 04-21-2015, 03:32 PM
 
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america had how many presidents? 44. how many of them were tyrants?


muslim countries cover half the planet and yet each one is plagued by tyrants for centuries now.

thats because mixing politics and religion is in itself tyranical.
that perfectly benign sharia is really nothing but an impossible dream.
Out of 200+ Nations 49 are considered Islamic. many possibly the majority of those are secular democracies or Republics. The Remainder are Monarchies, Iran is the only Theocracy.

As to how many American Presidents were tyrants, that is a matter of perspective.
If you were Lakota you would view all of them as having been such. the worse being during the Westward Expansion and the doctrine of Manifest Destiny.
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Old 04-22-2015, 08:59 AM
 
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Out of 200+ Nations 49 are considered Islamic. many possibly the majority of those are secular democracies or Republics. The Remainder are Monarchies, Iran is the only Theocracy.

As to how many American Presidents were tyrants, that is a matter of perspective.
If you were Lakota you would view all of them as having been such. the worse being during the Westward Expansion and the doctrine of Manifest Destiny.
49 islamic nations and you blame all of their failed sharias on 'tyrants'. what a convenient scapegoat, huh?
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