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We have had so many surveys and studies come out in the last number of months which indicate that religion is becoming of less and less importance to people, especially in the United States of America, and in many cases fading away completely.
This studies show that college students are rapidly becoming separated from any religious perspectives including the so-called spiritual.
Many of us think this is a good thing and would not be surprised if the chart you see in this story soon will start resembling a hockey stick.
We have had so many surveys and studies come out in the last number of months which indicate that religion is becoming of less and less importance to people, especially in the United States of America, and in many cases fading away completely.
This studies show that college students are rapidly becoming separated from any religious perspectives including the so-called spiritual.
Many of us think this is a good thing and would not be surprised if the chart you see in this story soon will start resembling a hockey stick.
Christian religious fundamentalism, the antithesis of the Christian life displayed by Jesus, dominates America and is destroying unity in the nation. A number of Hispanic and African nations continue to have historic faith based growth patterns. They are not nearly as dominated by Christian fundamentalism, though it is making some inroads there as well.
Christian religious fundamentalism, the antithesis of the Christian life displayed by Jesus, dominates America and is destroying unity in the nation. A number of Hispanic and African nations continue to have historic faith based growth patterns. They are not nearly as dominated by Christian fundamentalism, though it is making some inroads there as well.
Sounds like a bit of spin doctoring there, Wardendresen, didn't expect that from you.
There have been numerous studies conducted which established the correlation between higher education and the lower probability of religious beliefs. That is what we are seeing, the clash between education where one is encouraged to be skeptical, and faith where the same is often fatal to the belief. It isn't people being turned off by the extremes, the extremes have always been around, it is people recognizing the dubious support upon which faith based belief rests.
That religion continues to flourish in those nations with the lowest levels of education only shores up the correlation studies. That is not a good or hopeful sign for the future of religion.
Sounds like a bit of spin doctoring there, Wardendresen, didn't expect that from you.
There have been numerous studies conducted which established the correlation between higher education and the lower probability of religious beliefs. That is what we are seeing, the clash between education where one is encouraged to be skeptical, and faith where the same is often fatal to the belief. It isn't people being turned off by the extremes, the extremes have always been around, it is people recognizing the dubious support upon which faith based belief rests.
That religion continues to flourish in those nations with the lowest levels of education only shores up the correlation studies. That is not a good or hopeful sign for the future of religion.
Not spin doctoring, Grandstander. Just stating the FACTS. What is the reason underlying the facts is a different story, and I'm not arguing against your point.
While there are numerous "educated" Christians, far fewer of them tend to be in the fundamentalist cult---unless!!!---they are a 'religious' leader cashing in on Christ. Those tend to have a decent educational background. Pat Robertson is one sad example, proving that if you don't keep religion in balance with your education, you might as well not spend the money to GET an education.
We have had so many surveys and studies come out in the last number of months which indicate that religion is becoming of less and less importance to people, especially in the United States of America, and in many cases fading away completely.
This studies show that college students are rapidly becoming separated from any religious perspectives including the so-called spiritual.
Many of us think this is a good thing and would not be surprised if the chart you see in this story soon will start resembling a hockey stick.
In other news, the numerous Bible and Christian colleges, gasp, still have students enrolling and appear to be functioning just as well as previous decades.
BTW, did they do an accurate cross section poll of students from all over the country, or just asked a few college kids in sunny CA?
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In other news, the numerous Bible and Christian colleges, gasp, still have students enrolling and appear to be functioning just as well as previous decades.
BTW, did they do an accurate cross section poll of students from all over the country, or just asked a few college kids in sunny CA?
Why don't you read the article for yourself? By following the links in it, you too can learn how many students were surveyed, and you too can learn how many colleges were included, and you too can learn what parts of the United States they are in.
Of course, it might be easier to keep one's head in the sand and deny deny deny that any survey that shows religion declining may actually be accurate.
Go on Jeff, read the article. Press the links. Fill your soul with the truth.
And then come back here and tell us what you learned.
Christian religious fundamentalism, the antithesis of the Christian life displayed by Jesus, dominates America and is destroying unity in the nation. A number of Hispanic and African nations continue to have historic faith based growth patterns. They are not nearly as dominated by Christian fundamentalism, though it is making some inroads there as well.
It seems that some liberal Christians have their own version of history where no Christians ever believed in a literal resurrection, literal miracles, a literal hell, a literal heaven, etc. until the 1920s.
Read the Christian creeds. They were written well before 1920. They make no mention of Jesus the role model or Jesus the social activist.
Why don't you read the article for yourself? By following the links in it, you too can learn how many students were surveyed, and you too can learn how many colleges were included, and you too can learn what parts of the United States they are in.
Of course, it might be easier to keep one's head in the sand and deny deny deny that any survey that shows religion declining may actually be accurate.
Go on Jeff, read the article. Press the links. Fill your soul with the truth.
And then come back here and tell us what you learned.
As I said before, it doesn't affect me one way or another. If you are right, then you are only proving that the Bible's prophecy was spot on in Matthew 24:10. I just don't see what you get out of relentlessly creating these type of posts.
Sounds like a bit of spin doctoring there, Wardendresen, didn't expect that from you.
There have been numerous studies conducted which established the correlation between higher education and the lower probability of religious beliefs. That is what we are seeing, the clash between education where one is encouraged to be skeptical, and faith where the same is often fatal to the belief. It isn't people being turned off by the extremes, the extremes have always been around, it is people recognizing the dubious support upon which faith based belief rests.
That religion continues to flourish in those nations with the lowest levels of education only shores up the correlation studies. That is not a good or hopeful sign for the future of religion.
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Originally Posted by Wardendresden
Not spin doctoring, Grandstander. Just stating the FACTS. What is the reason underlying the facts is a different story, and I'm not arguing against your point.
While there are numerous "educated" Christians, far fewer of them tend to be in the fundamentalist cult---unless!!!---they are a 'religious' leader cashing in on Christ. Those tend to have a decent educational background. Pat Robertson is one sad example, proving that if you don't keep religion in balance with your education, you might as well not spend the money to GET an education.
You two aren't as far apart as you might think.
The more educated the Christian/Muslim/Hindu/Other-Believer/Non/et al, the less dissonance when reconciling Science/Belief with reality.
What should drive us all - believer, non, and fence-sitter - is the search for what is true.
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Originally Posted by jeffbase40
As I said before, it doesn't affect me one way or another. If you are right, then you are only proving that the Bible's prophecy was spot on in Matthew 24:10. I just don't see what you get out of relentlessly creating these type of posts.
Why was your first reaction to diss the study? What it is it in your nature, or many fundamentalist, to deny, deny, deny rather than accept reality.
But then maybe that is the issue, that the ability or desire to accept reality, doesn't exist, and rather, the hope of believing in an esoteric faith based on the thoughts of a superstitious, wandering desert tribe of 3000 years ago.
BTW, you've taken Matthew 24:10 completely out of context.
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