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Old 06-04-2015, 11:43 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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And let's see what the VICTIMS are saying. Because they are the ones we should be concerned about, dontcha think?





Josh Duggar molested four of his sisters and a babysitter, parents tell Fox News - The Washington Post



Notice they said "they"? Who is "they"? It is the media and people like you who feel the need to parade a confidential police report all over the internet and trash their family. "They" are victimizing these girls and I find that pretty disgusting. It was illegal for this sealed record to be released. The family has healed and moved on. Why can't you? You don't have a leg to stand on unless you can prove that Josh is currently a risk. He did receive professional counseling. Guess that doesn't matter in your eyes. People can't change or be forgiven in your world. I'm glad I don't live in it.
Well. "They" must be referring to you because you have been posting about this nonstop. Do you count yourself in there Jeffie?

The Duggars are attempting to turn this around into someone else's fault. Naturally.

Why did "they" choose to raise their children in front of television cameras? Why do 'they' covet fame and fortune.

Did 'they' offer an apology to those complete strangers that 'they' accused of being child molesters?

I sure didn't hear one.

Why is it that 'they' take NO PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY whatsoever? Why is it everyone else's fault. The only way to redeem themselves (as any crisis manager will tell you); is to admit fault and say you are sorry. They failed to do that.

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Did you have a legitimate article I can read? I can't watch videos right now. I watched the entire interview and dont' recall them mentioning a one year old. It doesn't change my position. I believe people can be forgiven and change. You still have ZERO proof that Josh is currently a molester and endangerment to society. His sisters have clearly forgiven him, but you'll just claim they are brainwashed or whatever fits into your anti-Christian sterotypes. I stand by my original point that a 14 year boy does not have the same level of sexual maturity as an adult. A pedophile is an ADULT who preys on children.
Words right outta their mouth should be quite legitimate. Watch the video later. Read the police report; listen to Josh's confession. There's your proof but you are too blinded by the 'Christian Family' they portray on telelvison to see the truth. They worship their religon more than Christ.
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Old 06-04-2015, 11:47 AM
 
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Did they ever beat the babies on camera? No, because America would have lost it.
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Old 06-04-2015, 11:53 AM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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Babies being beaten with a rod for crawling off a blanket?

Children of any age being beaten with a rod?

Why aren't the parents being investigated for child abuse?
That is an excellent question.
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Old 06-04-2015, 11:55 AM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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Because it's acceptable to some people. One child said in the police report that they were hit with a rod. Looks like the police did nothing and just let that pass.
Hopefully this scandal will open some eyes and there can be a complete investigation into this family, as well as others, that practice such barbaric forms of discipline.

Oh, wait.....according to jeffbase, that would be christian persecution.
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Old 06-04-2015, 11:59 AM
 
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I remember a time when beating a christian was considered persecution

Now pointing out the horror of a christian being beaten (albeit by another christian) is christian persecution
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Old 06-04-2015, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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And let's see what the VICTIMS are saying. Because they are the ones we should be concerned about, dontcha think?





Josh Duggar molested four of his sisters and a babysitter, parents tell Fox News - The Washington Post



Notice they said "they"? Who is "they"? It is the media and people like you who feel the need to parade a confidential police report all over the internet and trash their family. "They" are victimizing these girls and I find that pretty disgusting. It was illegal for this sealed record to be released. The family has healed and moved on. Why can't you? You don't have a leg to stand on unless you can prove that Josh is currently a risk. He did receive professional counseling. Guess that doesn't matter in your eyes. People can't change or be forgiven in your world. I'm glad I don't live in it.
I doubt that Josh or his victims ever received professional counseling....


I can’t say for sure what Josh Duggar’s counseling looked like, though it appears it was handled in-house, through the family and likely also through the church and Christian ministries the family follows, such as Bill Gothard’s Advanced Training Institute (ATI). What I can do is speak to the sort of counseling Bill Gothard and ATI provide.
Gothard was outed as a predator of teen girls last year and removed from his leadership position - See more at: What Did Josh Duggar’s Counseling Look Like?

This entire cult is looking like a nest of vipers.
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Old 06-04-2015, 12:03 PM
 
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I think the fact that Josh also reared these kids should be taken into account.
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Old 06-04-2015, 12:05 PM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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I'm seriously thinking about drafting a letter to the Duggars' local CPS, urging them to investigate this family and their practice of beating their kids (including infants) with a rod.

Maybe even starting a change.org petition.
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Old 06-04-2015, 12:09 PM
 
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I doubt that Josh or his victims ever received professional counseling....


I can’t say for sure what Josh Duggar’s counseling looked like, though it appears it was handled in-house, through the family and likely also through the church and Christian ministries the family follows, such as Bill Gothard’s Advanced Training Institute (ATI). What I can do is speak to the sort of counseling Bill Gothard and ATI provide.
Gothard was outed as a predator of teen girls last year and removed from his leadership position - See more at: What Did Josh Duggar’s Counseling Look Like?

This entire cult is looking like a nest of vipers.
Oh so it was the someone else's fault. The baby being diapered defrauded him. How Moderator cut: language sick

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Old 06-04-2015, 12:10 PM
 
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I'm seriously thinking about drafting a letter to the Duggars' local CPS, urging them to investigate this family and their practice of beating their kids (including infants) with a rod.

Maybe even starting a change.org petition.
I'll sign. These people are sick.
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