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This thread is sad. We are trivializing a legitimate and disturbing case of sexual abuse and using it as a tool to attack Christians. It shouldn't matter what their beliefs are. We should really be more concerned about the victims, but some people would prefer to politicize this.
The only people who seem to be attacking Christians are the Christians who are making excuses for this family. No one said this is a definitive example of Christianity, simply that the Duggars have made their living on shaming others for not living up to their fundamentalist beliefs while sheltering a known sexual abuser WITH his victims!
Josh Duggar himself is quoted many times using his version of Christianity to defend his outright lies about the gay and trans community. While he talked about protecting children, all the while the children needed to be protected from him and were not, repeatedly.
Who cares what anyone else did in this situation. This is about the Duggars and their choices in how they handled this. I'm absolutely sickened by the mental and moral gymnastics so many "good Christians" are doing to try and rationalize this as being okay.
Also, it's become about them being Christians because that is their brand. That is what they have made their millions on. And they have taken very extreme conservative beliefs, of course they're going to be attacked about this. As they should be. What they did was wrong.
News Flash: THERE IS NOTHING, EVER, THAT MAKES MOLESTATION OR SEXUAL ABUSE ACCEPTABLE OR OKAY. EVER.
News Flash - no one here is claiming sexual abuse is acceptable or defending Josh's actions. It was wrong, disgusting, and damaging. But putting the Dugger family in a special class that deserves even more extreme criticism simply because they are Christian is wrong and judgmental. It's like the media sharks were just waiting for this family to slip up just like they do with the Robertson family.
Who knows, maybe this experience led the family to take a strong stance against sexual immorality because they know first hand how damaging it can be.
...putting the Dugger family in a special class that deserves even more extreme criticism simply because they are Christian is wrong and judgmental.
It's not because they are Christian. It's because they have elevated themselves as figures that speak with authority on moral matters. If you're going to fight anti-LGBT discrimination acts on "moral" grounds, if you're going to call transgendered people out as lacking in morals, if you're going to call LGBT people a threat to children - you'd damn well better have your own house in order.
News Flash - no one here is claiming sexual abuse is acceptable or defending Josh's actions. It was wrong, disgusting, and damaging. But putting the Dugger family in a special class that deserves even more extreme criticism simply because they are Christian is wrong and judgmental. It's like the media sharks were just waiting for this family to slip up just like they do with the Robertson family.
Who knows, maybe this experience led the family to take a strong stance against sexual immorality because they know first hand how damaging it can be.
Using this incident for ANYthing other than to help the victims and, since this is a family voluntarily in the public eye, allow them to be part of educating society about the problem if they so desire, is beyond crass and insensitive. As it is, the amount of judgment and hostility being heaped on the family as a whole can do nothing to help those girls. STOP using their pain to promote an agenda. You who do so re-victimize those you say you care about.
I also find people parading what a child did many years ago repulsive. Usually the ones parading it are guilty of the same offense.
OK, so first you suggest that the reason this piece of filth raped his kid sisters was because he was a secret atheist, and now you're implying that people who are condemning him are pedophiles themselves.
I wouldn't have believed it was possible, but somehow you find a way to make your posts even more disgusting by the day. You're really showing an awful lot of who you really are here.
News Flash - no one here is claiming sexual abuse is acceptable or defending Josh's actions. It was wrong, disgusting, and damaging. But putting the Dugger family in a special class that deserves even more extreme criticism simply because they are Christian is wrong and judgmental. It's like the media sharks were just waiting for this family to slip up just like they do with the Robertson family.
Who knows, maybe this experience led the family to take a strong stance against sexual immorality because they know first hand how damaging it can be.
The ONLY reason their religion gets brought up is because THEY BRING IT UP! They have chosen an incredibly public life with a lot of extreme beliefs. There whole image is about being a good god fearing christian family.
They brought religion into this, not anyone else.
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Originally Posted by Dane_in_LA
It's not because they are Christian. It's because they have elevated themselves as figures that speak with authority on moral matters. If you're going to fight anti-LGBT discrimination acts on "moral" grounds, if you're going to call transgendered people out as lacking in morals, if you're going to call LGBT people a threat to children - you'd damn well better have your own house in order.
Thank you! Good grief the hypocrisy of people rushing to defend this family is disgusting.
If you're so pissed that people are hating on them because they're christians, you should be equally pissed at the people willing to excuse the whole situation because they are christians.
But one fact will always be true, they put their religion out there first. They started the religious conversations.
You DON'T think it's more serious that a middle-aged priest is molesting youth, compared to a 14 year old boy? Really? You expect a 14 year old boy to as mature? Really?
If Josh Duggar had murdered someone as a 14 year old boy, he may not have gotten tried in an adult court. He might have simply gone to a juvenile detention center. Yet, you want to throw the book at this guy now 12 years later?
It is more serious by the fact that molestation and incest was occurring in the Duggar's home, and his female siblings were innocent victims with no place to escape. I'd expect his parents to be wise enough to put an end to the molestation and incest taking place under their roof, mind you these acts took place on multiple occasions. None of the parents, or other adults aware of the situation acted responsibly.
Sadly it is too late to throw the book at all the guilty parties involved in these acts of incest, child molestation and child abuse.
OK, so first you suggest that the reason this piece of filth raped his kid sisters was because he was a secret atheist, and now you're implying that people who are condemning him are pedophiles themselves.
I wouldn't have believed it was possible, but somehow you find a way to make your posts even more disgusting by the day. You're really showing an awful lot of who you really are here.
I'm unsurprised at seeing the reactions from the usual CD fundie mouthpieces. But much as I disagree with him, I thought Eusie had a kind heart. I see now he merely cloaked the rot better than the others.
Incest is ubiquitous in families. Children become curious and experiment.
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