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Old 06-29-2015, 08:57 AM
 
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God can be anything right? That's part of the fun.
Like I said, when (if) you can let go and get beyond the rigid mindset that can only conceive of God in one way, maybe you can consider what is being said. Until then, you'll keep resorting to quips and knee jerk responses that appear to be born out of disappointment or anger that what you were taught was true, and believed, isn't.
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Old 06-29-2015, 09:13 AM
 
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Like I said, when (if) you can let go and get beyond the rigid mindset that can only conceive of God in one way, maybe you can consider what is being said. Until then, you'll keep resorting to quips and knee jerk responses that appear to be born out of disappointment or anger that what you were taught was true, and believed, isn't.
If you want to conceive of God as a chicken sandwich, that's fine. But that's a topic for a different thread.

The present topic assumes the Judeo-Christian-Islamic God: a conscious entity which can communicate with humans.

If you want to start a thread about alternative ideas about God, then do so. Don't try to hijack this thread.
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Old 06-29-2015, 09:19 AM
 
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If you want to conceive of God as a chicken sandwich, that's fine. But that's a topic for a different thread.

The present topic assumes the Judeo-Christian-Islamic God: a conscious entity which can communicate with humans.

If you want to start a thread about alternative ideas about God, then do so. Don't try to hijack this thread.
Neither your thread title, nor your o.p., specified the Judeo-Christian-Islamic God.

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This discussion came up in a thread with a different topic, so I moved the discussion here.

My question is this: why does God send different messages to different believers? Not only do different theist religions have very different ideas about God, but said religions are split into different factions and denominations. And even within those factions, individual believers will disagree among each other.

So my question is this: why is God such a poor communicator? Why can't he seem to get his Real Message across? Does he purposely send different messages to different people just to "mix it up" and keep things interesting?

What is going on?
But, regardless, my post can stand within that context as well.
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Old 06-29-2015, 09:54 AM
 
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a good place to start then might be to be clear and honest in your intention and motive in asking the question. is it to make belittling remarks? is it to prove others wrong? is it to vaunt your superiority? is there a genuine desire to connect with Creator? do you have a desire to grow and improve as a human being in your character development and integrity? how willing are you to implement whatever guidance you might receive? are you willing to change? are you able to consider and explore ways of being that are different from what you now cling to? where in this topic are your emotions particularly charged? when you hear something you don't like what is your response? when you reject something what are the reasons?

the only person any of this matters to really is you. we don't need the answers, they are only pertinent and useful to you. and they do ask of a person an honesty and willingness in self-awareness and self-development. if those are not appealing or practical to you, then there is no need to waste time or energy on the topic.

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Old 06-29-2015, 10:51 AM
 
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If you want to conceive of God as a chicken sandwich, that's fine. But that's a topic for a different thread.

The present topic assumes the Judeo-Christian-Islamic God: a conscious entity which can communicate with humans.

If you want to start a thread about alternative ideas about God, then do so. Don't try to hijack this thread.
That was good advice, Freak. I've told you the same thing. So has Mystic. I'm not sure if Warden tried before he decided to stop responding to you.

You've decided the Judeo-Christian-Islamic God, who you don't believe exists, is X. That's fine. The problem is not everyone sees the Judeo-Christian-Islamic God as X and the people who don't waste their time trying to explain it to you.
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Old 06-29-2015, 11:00 AM
 
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And because he only exists between our ears in a thing called the brain.
This answer.
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Old 06-29-2015, 11:08 AM
 
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That was good advice, Freak. I've told you the same thing. So has Mystic. I'm not sure if Warden tried before he decided to stop responding to you.

You've decided the Judeo-Christian-Islamic God, who you don't believe exists, is X. That's fine. The problem is not everyone sees the Judeo-Christian-Islamic God as X and the people who don't waste their time trying to explain it to you.
Ok, so what is the correct view of the Judeo-Christian and/or Islamic God?

If everyone has a different view, then it is likely that said God is imaginary.

There are not radically different ideas about the geography of planet earth. Nobody fights about the geography of planet earth. Most likely because planet earth is real and not imaginary. It's clear to everyone. Everyone sees the same features.

We do get radically different ideas about the Judeo-Christian or Islamic gods because they are imaginary. If those gods were real, everyone would agree on what they are like.
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Old 06-29-2015, 11:10 AM
 
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And because he only exists between our ears in a thing called the brain.
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This answer.
Exactly right. God exists nowhere but in the human imagination.

That is why "God" sends different messages to different people.
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Old 06-29-2015, 11:13 AM
 
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If those gods were real, everyone would agree on what they are like.
which translates to...."unwilling to listen to any responses that don't fit preconceived notion because mind is already made up"

simplistic black and white thinking, and a closed mind unwilling to examine data, precludes and prohibits growth in all areas: physical, emotional, intellectual, and spiritual. So you are asking the questions, but are unwilling to hear much less listen to or consider, the answers.
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Old 06-29-2015, 11:14 AM
 
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Exactly right. God exists nowhere but in the human imagination.

That is why "God" sends different messages to different people.
Is it important to you to convince others who believe differently that this is true? If so, why?
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