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Old 06-21-2015, 07:06 AM
 
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Some Christians claim they have evidence that the deity and an afterlife exist. However, when asked to reveal it, they fail to do so. WHY?
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Old 06-21-2015, 09:55 AM
 
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Some Christians claim they have evidence that the deity and an afterlife exist. However, when asked to reveal it, they fail to do so. WHY?
Many reveal it. But it's largely subjective and anecdotal which doesn't pass muster evidence-wise with those who require something more objective and concrete.
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Old 06-21-2015, 09:58 AM
 
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Some Christians claim they have evidence that the deity and an afterlife exist. However, when asked to reveal it, they fail to do so. WHY?
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Many reveal it. But it's largely subjective and anecdotal which doesn't pass muster evidence-wise with those who require something more objective and concrete.
That is because the only evidence is subjective or anecdotal. And that is not really evidence of anything but an opinion.
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Old 06-21-2015, 10:54 AM
 
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Some Christians claim they have evidence that the deity and an afterlife exist. However, when asked to reveal it, they fail to do so. WHY?
The universe exists. That's enough evidence to point to a creator for it.
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Old 06-21-2015, 11:05 AM
 
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That is because the only evidence is subjective or anecdotal. And that is not really evidence of anything but an opinion.
Since the o.p. was specifically about Christians, I'll say this (as a former Christian): Your idea of evidence for God and the afterlife is at odds with the Christian bible's idea of evidence. It proclaims that "faith is the evidence". I always had a hard time understanding that passage, myself, and still do. But, maybe it means that if you don't have faith that there is something beyond the material/physical world, you'll never be able to see any evidence to the contrary? Sort of a catch 22 for the less "spiritual-minded" or intuitive among us, but that doesn't necessarily mean it isn't true.
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Old 06-21-2015, 11:10 AM
 
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The universe exists. That's enough evidence to point to a creator for it.
That's a PRATT.

(Point Refuted A Thousand Times)
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Old 06-21-2015, 11:13 AM
 
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Rhetorical question?

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Some Christians claim they have evidence that the deity and an afterlife exist. However, when asked to reveal it, they fail to do so. WHY?
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Old 06-21-2015, 11:20 AM
 
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The universe exists. That's enough evidence to point to a creator for it.
Already refuted here:

https://www.city-data.com/forum/40083390-post213.html

You ignored my refutation and repeated the argument. Just as I predicted.
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Old 06-21-2015, 11:24 AM
 
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My dog doesn't understand many things and isn't aware of the existence of many more, which are a daily reality for me and billions of other people. Just because we have certain limitations as a species, it doesn't mean that the limits our human thinking and perception are the limits of everything there is.
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Old 06-21-2015, 11:26 AM
 
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Some Christians claim they have evidence that the deity and an afterlife exist. However, when asked to reveal it, they fail to do so. WHY?
Don't Atheists do the same?
They claim there is no God, but when asked for "tangible proof", they come up with all sort of twisted attempts yet they can't disporove the existence of God in an experiment in a scientific lab.

It's called "faith" for a reason. You read the signs, you use your brain and your intelligence and then you put your faith into it.

Here is a small sign, try to ponder upon it with an open mind and open up to the idea that perhaps there is knowledge beyond the limit of what you know.


From a naked eye, the moon and sun look the same in size but the sun is actually 400 times bigger than the moon. However, and interestingly enough, the sun is also 400 times farther from the earth then the moon.
Ask yourself, did this happen all by itself? Was it a co-incidence, was it by chance?

And if your answer is yes, then,

Take a small bucket and your smart phone and go to your driveway.

Gather a few small stones and put them on the concrete in a certain order - let's say alphabets that form your name.

Now, take out your cell phone and take a picture.

Pick up the stones and put them in the basket.

Toss the stones in the air from your basket and let them land on the concrete - repeat this process 100 trillion times and you can't form your name again.

You will perhaps realize that an explosion ends in chaos - and not in order.

Now imagine the universe and see how it's designed - think of all these stars and planets as those stones that you placed in an orderly fashion and ask yourself - all this order and symmetry of the universe happened by itself?

Yes, you will talk about Big Bang - and it will only support the existence of God.
Only the power of God can result an explosion like the Big Bang, result in an very well organized formation of universe. And this is one of the reason he is God and you are human. If not, get the basket again and continue toss the stones in the air and see you could compete with God.
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