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Old 09-11-2015, 02:01 PM
 
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You can believe whatever you want. However, the reality is that pedophilia has to do with availability and control. If you didn't believe that, why didn't you question it when Ronk told you that before? She knows a lot more about this issue than either you or I, so I defer to her judgement.

BTW, nothing in anything I posted in this thread even hinted that I think sexual preference is not hard-wired. You know it is not a choice, whether you admit it or not. You know that because you never sat down and made a decision to be a heterosexual after giving all the options equal and careful consideration.
You're certainly entitled to your opinions. I've never suggested otherwise.
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Old 09-11-2015, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Illinois
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I'm sorry. I don't believe that a man that likes pre-teen and teen boys is not gay. Perhaps you're willing to buy that, but I'm not.
How about a 40 year old man who likes 14 year old girls? What is he?

There are people - men and women, straight and gay, who are "into" teenagers. That does not make them pedophiles, because pedophiles are specifically interested in pre-pubescent children. But I'm sure you already know that and it's been explained to you before. You just refuse to acknowledge it.

Anyway, there are 14 year old girls being sold off to men in their 20s, 30s, and up as child brides in arranged marriages. Happens every day, all over the world. Are those men pedophiles? Would you consider a straight man who likes looking at teenage girls a pedophile? A sexual deviant? A normal, red-blooded male? I'm curious to hear your answers.


Regardless, people who prey on children will find a way to get involved with children (that is, until they're caught) - teachers, coaches, pastors, youth pastors, after school care givers, babysitters, what have you. Religion has nothing to do with it, heterosexuality/homosexuality has nothing to do with it, and you know it.
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Old 09-11-2015, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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How about a 40 year old man who likes 14 year old girls? What is he?

There are people - men and women, straight and gay, who are "into" teenagers. That does not make them pedophiles, because pedophiles are specifically interested in pre-pubescent children. But I'm sure you already know that and it's been explained to you before. You just refuse to acknowledge it.

Anyway, there are 14 year old girls being sold off to men in their 20s, 30s, and up as child brides in arranged marriages. Happens every day, all over the world. Are those men pedophiles? Would you consider a straight man who likes looking at teenage girls a pedophile? A sexual deviant? A normal, red-blooded male? I'm curious to hear your answers.


Regardless, people who prey on children will find a way to get involved with children (that is, until they're caught) - teachers, coaches, pastors, youth pastors, after school care givers, babysitters, what have you. Religion has nothing to do with it, heterosexuality/homosexuality has nothing to do with it, and you know it.
But he does his best to ignore what he knows.

And he does it well.
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Old 09-11-2015, 08:43 PM
 
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Do you really see no difference between a man being attracted to a 13 year old girl or a 13 year old boy? Or a 4 year old boy and a 13 year old girl?
Homosexuality.

Pedophilia.

Not the same. Should not be lumped together to demonize the gay community.
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Old 09-16-2015, 11:20 PM
 
Location: Illinois
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How about a 40 year old man who likes 14 year old girls? What is he?

There are people - men and women, straight and gay, who are "into" teenagers. That does not make them pedophiles, because pedophiles are specifically interested in pre-pubescent children. But I'm sure you already know that and it's been explained to you before. You just refuse to acknowledge it.

Anyway, there are 14 year old girls being sold off to men in their 20s, 30s, and up as child brides in arranged marriages. Happens every day, all over the world. Are those men pedophiles? Would you consider a straight man who likes looking at teenage girls a pedophile? A sexual deviant? A normal, red-blooded male? I'm curious to hear your answers.


Regardless, people who prey on children will find a way to get involved with children (that is, until they're caught) - teachers, coaches, pastors, youth pastors, after school care givers, babysitters, what have you. Religion has nothing to do with it, heterosexuality/homosexuality has nothing to do with it, and you know it.
Still waiting, Vizio.
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Old 09-17-2015, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Still waiting, Vizio.
The line forms on the left.

Viz has a knack for ignoring whatever his go-to-god-guru, Matt "The Oil" Slick, doesn't have a pre-scripted answer for.
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