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Old 09-30-2015, 07:46 PM
 
Location: South Wales, United Kingdom
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I'd rather believe in fate.
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Old 09-30-2015, 07:48 PM
 
Location: moved
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Plan yes, only I know He gives me choices and His Plan is to allow me those choices. I also believe we have infinite paths we could follow based on those choices and as long as the choices are morally justifiable we are blessed. God doesn't force anyone's hand.
But are one's choices part of God's plan? If they are, then in what sense are they really a matter of the individual's personal choice? And if they genuinely and irreducibly depend on the individual's free-will, then how can they be part of God's plan?
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Old 09-30-2015, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Northeastern US
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I'd rather believe in fate.
What do you feel the alternative is? Despair? Hopelessness?

Life is what it is no matter what we prefer to believe or think about it.

I think that any one person could find happiness with any of >1 other people, and in fact, probably with a low single digit percentage of other people. In other words out of the roughly 319 million people currently living in the US, if we take 1% of the people, half of which are female, there are maybe 1.5 to 3 million women who I could find decent levels of happiness with. And that's only if I limit myself to the US.

That doesn't dilute the amount of love or value I'd place on the one ultimately selected.

That seems like a whole lot better odds than "there is one person I am destined to love and if I don't find them, I'm screwed".

Fate is over-rated. And it's the very opposite of comfort when a relationship fails or a spouse dies, etc.
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Old 09-30-2015, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Eastern UP of Michigan
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I do not know if there is a God.
I do not know if we are here because of the Big Bang.
I do not know what happens to us at the end of our existence.

I do know that Jim and I complete each other.
I do know that something brought us together, those 41 short years ago.
I do know that if there is a God I will thank him for having provided a wonderful man to fall in love with and to spend my life with.
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Old 09-30-2015, 09:32 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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Yep! No doubt.
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Old 09-30-2015, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Punta Gorda, FL
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This is especially addressed to couples who are both people of faith (i.e. Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, etc.). Do either or both of you feel that God was the One who brought the two of you together?
No, I'm sure it was Satan. We both agree.
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Old 09-30-2015, 10:30 PM
 
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I think it was a Ford, but it might have been a Chevy.
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Old 10-01-2015, 06:46 AM
 
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The deity must have brought us together so we could kick our faith out of the window by the time we got married, LOL!
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Old 10-01-2015, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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... Do either or both of you feel that God was the One who brought the two of you together?
Yes, I do.

I had a series of failed relationships due to my career field. I spoke with a pastor who suggested that I write a list of qualities I wanted in a wife, and that I pray to God about that list. I did as he instructed.

... [long story I will skip for now] ...

The next lady I met and asked for a date, fulfilled my list exactly [even to the extent that qualities I had forgotten to list were left out].

We have been married for 34 years.
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